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Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:08 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Och is quite the success story.

1st team AA and The Athletic is projecting him as lottery.

Good lord.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:09 pm
by ousdahl
Take it to the 15-16 lineup thread.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:11 pm
by ousdahl
Ah Dangit.

That was in response to Diallo.

Yeah sure maybe he woulda developed better had he stayed in college longer.
(Maaaaybe)
Or maybe he woulda had more minites and a bigger role had he not started his KU season in the NCAA doghouse. (For a goddamn 6th grade report card)

But he’s also made over $5 mil playing hoops now, and he’s only 25. I’d say he’s done ok for himself.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:11 pm
by pdub
Now I can stop referencing Buddy Hield when illy and co say there isn't a good reason to return to college as an upperclassman.

Ochais path is why CBB is great.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:18 pm
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:11 pm Now I can stop referencing Buddy Hield when illy and co say there isn't a good reason to return to college as an upperclassman.

Ochais path is why CBB is great.
Ya. He has changed my perception quite a bit. I still think it's different for every player, but i have softened my stance. Not everyone makes a leap, but if you don't make a leap in college then you weren't going to in the pros anyway.

And hell, CB is going to have the same choice to make this offseason.

It's important to improve your draft stock obviously, but it's also important to actually get better at basketball. That is what pays the future dividends.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:20 pm
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:06 pm Diallo shoulda got more clock here ( ncaa partly to blame here ) and I agree he shoulda stayed one more year...but hes locked onto a NBA career so you cant say he made a wrong decision.
But with 4 years he'd have become a better player than he has in the pros all that time imo. Hindsight is always 20/20, but he was just too raw to survive on developing with pro trainers in empty gyms.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:22 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
We can't forget how much friendlier the rules are now, though. And not just NIL.

Players can have agents now helping them out through the combine, the dates have changed when they have to declare, and if someone doesn't get drafted, they can return to school. Just better informed decisions and softer landing spots.


Och was also unique here that he just never had a normal season to really show what kind of player he is/can be.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:22 pm
by pdub
Often it's about that initial pick though...guaranteed money for multiple seasons.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:24 pm
by Mjl
Dave 30
JCL 38
Clemence 43
Wilson 51
KJ 68
Pettiford 98

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:26 pm
by pdub
Coleman Lands was my dark horse.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:26 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Does JCL really count considering there were no cameras back then to really know how good he was?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:28 pm
by pdub
The initial scouting report of Mitch was on floppy disk.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:30 pm
by ousdahl
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:26 pm Does JCL really count considering there were no cameras back then to really know how good he was?
Growing up, he could really torch them peach baskets.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:50 pm
by KUTradition
ousdahl wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:30 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:26 pm Does JCL really count considering there were no cameras back then to really know how good he was?
Growing up, he could really torch them peach baskets.
McLendon had him running suicides

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:52 pm
by PhDhawk
Imagine the converse contract he'd have had if they had NIL back then.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:02 pm
by ousdahl
I don’t think anyone got any money at all for playing back then.

Pretty sure they were just compensated with peaches.

Which makes sense, cuz once they took them outta the basket, what else were they supposed to do with them?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:05 pm
by KUTradition
do peaches even grow in Kansas?

edit: they can! USDA zones 4-9…learn something new every day

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:19 pm
by TDub
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:05 pm do peaches even grow in Kansas?

edit: they can! USDA zones 4-9…learn something new every day
4? wow never would've guessed they could survive a zone 4 winter.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:21 pm
by Mjl
I was in my 30s when I figured out that that Presidents of the United States of America song isn't really about peaches

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:26 pm
by TDub
Mjl wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:21 pm I was in my 30s when I figured out that that Presidents of the United States of America song isn't really about peaches
Wait, this isn't about Dessert?!