"Health worker hospitalised after reaction to COVID vaccine"
https://www.9news.com.au/national/gold- ... af507c9256
And here's a most obvious example of the media lying. "No link" they say.
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https://abc7.com/woman-dies-after-getti ... /10337617/"Her cause of death has not been determined; however, there were no signs or symptoms of a severe allergic or anaphylactic reaction," Morris said in the statement.
The woman's family says she had a history of heart-related illness. Her husband of 57 years also received the vaccination and is still urging people to get the vaccine, adding that he intends to get his second dose in a few weeks.
seriously?Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:30 pm Another one.
"Health worker hospitalised after reaction to COVID vaccine"
https://www.9news.com.au/national/gold- ... af507c9256
And here's a most obvious example of the media lying. "No link" they say.I think it's pretty obvious when someone dies 15 minutes after receiving it.
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Since that is one of the rare times someone here asked some fair questions, I will answer.zsn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:00 pm Wally/lobs - here’s a question for you. Are you outraged by the death(s) you attribute ostensibly to vaccine, and want the vaccinations to discontinue? Are you similarly outraged by other causes of death with a much more reliable attributable cause? Gun violence for example?? What are you doing about that? As one wag put it, one of the positive outcomes of school closings due to COVID-19 is no school shootings!
1 - Seems like something a vaccine proponent would say?Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:16 pmSince that is one of the rare times someone here asked some fair questions, I will answer.zsn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:00 pm Wally/lobs - here’s a question for you. Are you outraged by the death(s) you attribute ostensibly to vaccine, and want the vaccinations to discontinue? Are you similarly outraged by other causes of death with a much more reliable attributable cause? Gun violence for example?? What are you doing about that? As one wag put it, one of the positive outcomes of school closings due to COVID-19 is no school shootings!
I just don't want to see people die when they don't need to. [1] What I want is for the news and government to be honest about the vaccine -- it is definitely not safe for everyone and lethal to some. [2] What you are seeing now is the same old lies from the media and our government just so they can try to force everyone to take the vax.
Your second question is more tricky. Gun violence is a problem, and I can't deny that. I am angry when I see that people are shot for whatever reason in a church. I was very angry when I saw David Dorn (a black police officer) shot and murdered in St. Louis by another BLM/Antifa person. Other blacks were killed by gun violence in the riots of last year too. The problem with trying to stop gun violence is that the gun is just one way to kill people. [3] If you ban guns, people can find other weapons (a bat, knife, etc.). At some point, you realize this is more of a people problem, not an object problem. [4] I'm not for banning guns, because they can be good for self defense or hunting, but I would be in favor of banning automatic weapons that really serve no purpose in our day to day lives. [5]
"I just don't want to see people die when they don't need to".Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:16 pmSince that is one of the rare times someone here asked some fair questions, I will answer.zsn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:00 pm Wally/lobs - here’s a question for you. Are you outraged by the death(s) you attribute ostensibly to vaccine, and want the vaccinations to discontinue? Are you similarly outraged by other causes of death with a much more reliable attributable cause? Gun violence for example?? What are you doing about that? As one wag put it, one of the positive outcomes of school closings due to COVID-19 is no school shootings!
I just don't want to see people die when they don't need to. What I want is for the news and government to be honest about the vaccine -- it is definitely not safe for everyone and lethal to some. What you are seeing now is the same old lies from the media and our government just so they can try to force everyone to take the vax.
Your second question is more tricky. Gun violence is a problem, and I can't deny that. I am angry when I see that people are shot for whatever reason in a church. I was very angry when I saw David Dorn (a black police officer) shot and murdered in St. Louis by another BLM/Antifa person. Other blacks were killed by gun violence in the riots of last year too. The problem with trying to stop gun violence is that the gun is just one way to kill people. If you ban guns, people can find other weapons (a bat, knife, etc.). At some point, you realize this is more of a people problem, not an object problem. I'm not for banning guns, because they can be good for self defense or hunting, but I would be in favor of banning automatic weapons that really serve no purpose in our day to day lives.
No. Absolutely not.
Despite the fact that, I dunno, 99.5% of people aren't having adverse effects and 99.99999% of people aren't dying from it?