Re: Kansas City thread
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:56 am
saying dumb shit is mich’s favorite
Are you not a fan of veterans and first responders?
The NFL ALWAYS does this. And it always feels like it's a lot less about actually honoring the military and more about honoring the NFL for being so great as to honor the military.lwh69ku wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:07 pmI’m just so tired of how much everything we do in this country has to be about “honoring the military.” A few things about it bother me:BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:01 pmWhy would that bother you? Just curious.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:27 am Can we fucking not, please.
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(1) there’s always this guilt trip about “never forget” when it’s literally every sports event and political speech in this country. Hell, if I did forget, I couldn’t make it a full day without being reminded.
(2) We’ll do everything to “honor” these people as a country except put some money into housing and health care for them. How about doing something besides dragging a 300 foot flag across a football field every Sunday that actually honors somebody?
(3) I can’t stand how we raise up the military (and cops) at every opportunity as if they’re the only people whose jobs contribute to the good of the country. As much as the rhetoric lays on the guilt, it also makes it really easy to think a perfunctory act like taking off your hat during the national anthem counts as honoring public servants and lets you go about your self-centered life. I think our society would benefit from asking and recognizing how every job should be making the country better.
The logic here is…falling for the straw man that some folks want you to.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 amAre you not a fan of veterans and first responders?
Why is it dumb if they are his favorite?
Me personally, I am not going to let the fact that the "maga" crowd has latched onto some of these groups cause me to stop vocally appreciating things like our veterans and first responders.
I don't think everything needs to become political and adversarial.
The NFL does the honoring the military stuff to keep that portion of the fan base happy.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:57 amThe NFL ALWAYS does this. And it always feels like it's a lot less about actually honoring the military and more about honoring the NFL for being so great as to honor the military.lwh69ku wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:07 pmI’m just so tired of how much everything we do in this country has to be about “honoring the military.” A few things about it bother me:
(1) there’s always this guilt trip about “never forget” when it’s literally every sports event and political speech in this country. Hell, if I did forget, I couldn’t make it a full day without being reminded.
(2) We’ll do everything to “honor” these people as a country except put some money into housing and health care for them. How about doing something besides dragging a 300 foot flag across a football field every Sunday that actually honors somebody?
(3) I can’t stand how we raise up the military (and cops) at every opportunity as if they’re the only people whose jobs contribute to the good of the country. As much as the rhetoric lays on the guilt, it also makes it really easy to think a perfunctory act like taking off your hat during the national anthem counts as honoring public servants and lets you go about your self-centered life. I think our society would benefit from asking and recognizing how every job should be making the country better.
It's like when a grocery store starts charging money for using plastic bags by pretending they're single-handedly saving the environment, when you damn well it was a financial decision.
Then the NFL is complicit in perpetuating the brain rot.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:56 amThe NFL does the honoring the military stuff to keep that portion of the fan base happy.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:57 amThe NFL ALWAYS does this. And it always feels like it's a lot less about actually honoring the military and more about honoring the NFL for being so great as to honor the military.lwh69ku wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:07 pm
I’m just so tired of how much everything we do in this country has to be about “honoring the military.” A few things about it bother me:
(1) there’s always this guilt trip about “never forget” when it’s literally every sports event and political speech in this country. Hell, if I did forget, I couldn’t make it a full day without being reminded.
(2) We’ll do everything to “honor” these people as a country except put some money into housing and health care for them. How about doing something besides dragging a 300 foot flag across a football field every Sunday that actually honors somebody?
(3) I can’t stand how we raise up the military (and cops) at every opportunity as if they’re the only people whose jobs contribute to the good of the country. As much as the rhetoric lays on the guilt, it also makes it really easy to think a perfunctory act like taking off your hat during the national anthem counts as honoring public servants and lets you go about your self-centered life. I think our society would benefit from asking and recognizing how every job should be making the country better.
It's like when a grocery store starts charging money for using plastic bags by pretending they're single-handedly saving the environment, when you damn well it was a financial decision.
Kansas City got incredibly unlucky with the old terminal design. You should look it up, if you don't know the timeline. It would be like if, tomorrow, something happened with air travel and all runways needed to be 5x as long as the runways at KCI are.Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:47 am The old airport was great design for a populace who drove cars. Thankfully, the new design channels cars into a dangerous knot of congestion because cars are no longer a thing apparently. Honestly, if they would have built a wider TSA entry point, the old terminals were ingenius.
Wasn't 9/11 my man.
I used to be First Team All-KCI. Without checking a bag, and with any number of options (SWA Fly-By; TSA Pre-Check; etc.) you really could do curb-to-gate in five minutes, which is glorious.Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:03 pm 9/11 additional security and gate baggage handling stopped for is referenced everywhere. As well as few amenities inside the TSA areas. But I loved the simple layout and convenience of the older terminals. The new airport, even with welded saxophone birds, reminds me of something of a half measure. Not as bad as Denver's faddish features. But, less than the old to me. The old terminals were plagued by not being renovated for more gate space post 9/11. The TWA fiasco and huge passenger plane era had passed. I flat out loved its convenience for air travel. But an all glass pleasure dome in tornado alley has an appeal all its own. Moot however.
There were some terrific ideas embedded in the old airport. I wish it had been updated and not razed.jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:20 pm I haven't flown in or out of KC for a long time. I do remember it being the most convenient airport I've ever been in. It's not a hub, they tried but it failed. So no, there weren't decent restaurants or shops, there was no one to go to them. I never ate there but I'm told Bryant's was an embarrassment to the city. It went belly up, probably a good thing. Doesn't matter, plane to baggage pick up was about 100 ft. Then 30 feet and you're out. It was beautiful.
There wasn't a practical path to updating it, not in such a fashion as would accommodate Kansas City being any busier than it is right now.* It would have been good money after bad.Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:25 pmThere were some terrific ideas embedded in the old airport. I wish it had been updated and not razed.jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:20 pm I haven't flown in or out of KC for a long time. I do remember it being the most convenient airport I've ever been in. It's not a hub, they tried but it failed. So no, there weren't decent restaurants or shops, there was no one to go to them. I never ate there but I'm told Bryant's was an embarrassment to the city. It went belly up, probably a good thing. Doesn't matter, plane to baggage pick up was about 100 ft. Then 30 feet and you're out. It was beautiful.