Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:47 pm I do take pride in KU being known for being good at college basketball.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:34 pm

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:34 pm
Last sentence nailed it. Many casual fans think Kansas is good but not great because of tournament success or whatnot. Those same fans will look at titles and think UConn is a more successful program because they’ve won 3 titles in 20 years.

What the casual fan thinks is of no interest to me. I don't gather my self worth based on what the casual fan thinks. I know KANSAS is one of the 5 best college basketball programs of all time.

What the casual fan thinks is of no interest to me. I'm an adult.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:34 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:32 pm

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:59 pm

I’ve said that same thing since KU last won in 08. Great. KU won 14 in a row but during that time frame they won exactly ONE Natty. Now it depends on which you value more. Some of those years winning the regular season was the ‘national championship’ but other years with the expectations heading into the tournament certain seasons were complete failures. Consistency of 14 years straight or the dumb luck sometimes that you need to win in March. Which do you value more. Not sure if there is a straight answer for that.

I think the frustrating part is that, based on just the one title, the perception of our success over the last couple decades (going back into the Roy era) is not in line with reality.

Put differently - there's a compelling argument that KU has been the best college basketball program in the country for the last...three decades? Three and a half?

But you won't hear casual fans name KU as such.

Last sentence nailed it. Many casual fans think Kansas is good but not great because of tournament success or whatnot. Those same fans will look at titles and think UConn is a more successful program because they’ve won 3 titles in 20 years.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:40 pm

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:34 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:32 pm

I think the frustrating part is that, based on just the one title, the perception of our success over the last couple decades (going back into the Roy era) is not in line with reality.

Put differently - there's a compelling argument that KU has been the best college basketball program in the country for the last...three decades? Three and a half?

But you won't hear casual fans name KU as such.

Last sentence nailed it. Many casual fans think Kansas is good but not great because of tournament success or whatnot. Those same fans will look at titles and think UConn is a more successful program because they’ve won 3 titles in 20 years.

There's really not a compelling argument that Kansas has been THE best over the last 30 years. We are behind Duke and Carolina during that time. Maybe Kentucky.

We are Top 5 in that time frames but not #1. I am sure there are a few categories that we'd be first in but a comprehensive review of the total picture wouldn't have us as the best.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:01 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:47 pm I do take pride in KU being known for being good at college basketball.

KANSAS is known for being good at basketball. Even the casual fan knows as much.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:35 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:52 am Am I wrong to think that a single title over that stretch is perhaps not sufficient to justify such waning?

"Such waning"? WTF? We finished 3rd in the Big 12, won 25 games, got a 4 seed and won a tourney game. Such waning? Good lord.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:40 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:01 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:47 pm I do take pride in KU being known for being good at college basketball.

KANSAS is known for being good at basketball. Even the casual fan knows as much.

You're getting closer!

I would prefer if the casual fan understood just how good KU basketball has been over the last 30 years. Having a single title to show during that period, unfortunately, causes many casual fans to overlook or discredit this.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:47 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:45 pm No team can lose hitting threes at this rate. Bruce Pearl has a team swarming like Frank Martin and shooting like Golden State. He always gets his money’s worth

This is the 4th team we've made look like a Final Four team in the last month.

Gqcolorado wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:37 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:47 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:45 pm No team can lose hitting threes at this rate. Bruce Pearl has a team swarming like Frank Martin and shooting like Golden State. He always gets his money’s worth

This is the 4th team we've made look like a Final Four team in the last month.