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Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:54 am
by Deleted User 863
Welp....late night basketball games it'll be if it's PAC.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 am
by NewtonHawk11
That's interesting Infinite. Certainly not the greatest endorsement. But the presidents make the calls, not solely the ADs.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 am
by Sparko
Seems like there is a check measuring contest going on. The competitive balance in the BiG could use a boost.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:02 am
by Deleted User 89
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:36 am Did you guys see the rumor that the SEC is trying to get tOSU and Meechigan from the B1G too to form a 20 team power conference? I mean, that's gotta be bullshit, right?
clemson and fsu too

then what would the B1G do? they’d surely want to add in order to prop up revenue as much as possible

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:03 am
by CrimsonNBlue
InfiniteJ wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:52 am Ohio St's AD retweeted this:

KU and WVU add TV markets to compete with SEC for even more revenue.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:06 am
by nu_bronco
Damn it. Why couldn't we get a decent football program going before this all happened again.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:07 am
by Deleted User 863
It's really interesting to see how widely opinions differ from the various fan bases on who each conference should add and what schools they see value in.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:08 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Sparko wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 amThe competitive balance in the BiG could use a boost.
CFB sucks so much right now--it would be nice if mega conference realignment could change competitive balance, but I am not initially sure how it can.

NLI may be the better balancer, but certainly changes are happening and can hopefully fix that huge problem.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:09 am
by CrimsonNBlue
nu_bronco wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:06 am Damn it. Why couldn't we get a decent football program going before this all happened again.
The last two schools added by the B1G were Rutgers and Maryland.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:12 am
by Deleted User 863
Rutgers value comes in that NJ/NY market and in their academics, right?

Maryland always seemed like a weird fit.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:24 am
by Deleted User 89
tweets coming out now indicating that B1G is only interested in adding AAU schools

B1G may look to PAC for additions

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 am
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:12 am Rutgers value comes in that NJ/NY market and in their academics, right?

Maryland always seemed like a weird fit.
That was the thought. TV markets less important right now. Also, that was obviously dumb. Anyone who's been to NYC knows there is little to no interest in college sports. And the interest that is there are in transplants who root for their own team, not the state college of New Jersey, just because it happens to be nearby.

Same with Maryland was supposed to bring in the DC market, but again, it's a city full of transplants, many who only live their traniently. You don't go to DC to work for 3 years and suddenly change the college team you root for to the closest school.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:26 am
by Deleted User 89

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:26 am
by PhDhawk
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:24 am tweets coming out now indicating that B1G is only interested in adding AAU schools

B1G may look to PAC for additions
KU is an AAU school.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:27 am
by CrimsonNBlue
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:12 am Rutgers value comes in that NJ/NY market and in their academics, right?

Maryland always seemed like a weird fit.
That was the thought. TV markets less important right now. Also, that was obviously dumb. Anyone who's been to NYC knows there is little to no interest in college sports. And the interest that is there are in transplants who root for their own team, not the state college of New Jersey, just because it happens to be nearby.

Same with Maryland was supposed to bring in the DC market, but again, it's a city full of transplants, many who only live their traniently. You don't go to DC to work for 3 years and suddenly change the college team you root for to the closest school.
I think the disconnect is the thought that adding those schools was going to secure the respective markets. I don't think that was ever really the promise. Adding those schools just at least gets you into those markets. Gives them something to sell to the tv companies.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:30 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:27 am
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:25 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:12 am Rutgers value comes in that NJ/NY market and in their academics, right?

Maryland always seemed like a weird fit.
That was the thought. TV markets less important right now. Also, that was obviously dumb. Anyone who's been to NYC knows there is little to no interest in college sports. And the interest that is there are in transplants who root for their own team, not the state college of New Jersey, just because it happens to be nearby.

Same with Maryland was supposed to bring in the DC market, but again, it's a city full of transplants, many who only live their traniently. You don't go to DC to work for 3 years and suddenly change the college team you root for to the closest school.
I think the disconnect is the thought that adding those schools was going to secure the respective markets. I don't think that was ever really the promise. Adding those schools just at least gets you into those markets. Gives them something to sell to the tv companies.
Yes. Numbers on a page. Which is true vis a vis the KC MSA and the B1G.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:32 am
by NewtonHawk11


This guy has really detailed information. Seems like KU, West Va and ISU are not interested in re-upping any commitment to Big 12 and the GOR. The meeting spelled doomed for the conference as it stands right now with the remaining 8 members.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:37 am
by nu_bronco
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:09 am
nu_bronco wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:06 am Damn it. Why couldn't we get a decent football program going before this all happened again.
The last two schools added by the B1G were Rutgers and Maryland.
Yeah, I understand that. I would still feel more comfortable if the team was closer to .500 instead of .100.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:37 am
by CrimsonNBlue
We are all going to forget that West Virginia was in the Big 12.

Re: Conference Realignment..?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:38 am
by LVCHawk
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:32 am

This guy has really detailed information. Seems like KU, West Va and ISU are not interested in re-upping any commitment to Big 12 and the GOR. The meeting spelled doomed for the conference as it stands right now with the remaining 8 members.
Hopefully its not the same WVU guy last time that kept saying Clemson and FSU were on the way to the Big 12