Kansas Crimson

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:44 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:43 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:41 pm Jacking threes time in time out with plenty time on the clock. Over and over.

Not hitting either. I do think the starters were tired.

If they hit a few in the 2nd half, it's a 10+ point game. The young Dayton team seemed to just wear KU down.

Its lazy basketball.
Move the ball.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:39 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:38 pm This should have been a 15-point win. Self didn't really sub enough. The free throws were a sign that legs were tired. Too many minutes for the starters. Way too many. Dayton just hung around.

I don't think not subbing enough was the issue at all. The issue is that we had two offensive zeroes out there far too much.

The first half he subbed non stop every time anyone made a mistake...then suddenly stops subbing at all.

Self does weird things and has a tendency to find way to make his teams play very tight.

Yesifu looked better than Harris today.

I jinxed the team by talking about the records going to the UK game. Sorry everyone!

Drive the ball with Ochai and Braun.
Good things happen when you do that.
Not deep guarded threes from Remy and Wilson.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:46 pm I jinxed the team by talking about the records going to the UK game. Sorry everyone!

Jinxer

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:45 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:39 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:38 pm This should have been a 15-point win. Self didn't really sub enough. The free throws were a sign that legs were tired. Too many minutes for the starters. Way too many. Dayton just hung around.

I don't think not subbing enough was the issue at all. The issue is that we had two offensive zeroes out there far too much.

The first half he subbed non stop every time anyone made a mistake...then suddenly stops subbing at all.

Self does weird things and has a tendency to find way to make his teams play very tight.

I don't Self had anything to do with that. KU players stopped playing defense and then handled the additional effort by Dayton terribly and choked.

AlOerter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:45 pm Yesifu looked better than Harris today.

Obviously there's a ton of season left, but it's sure looking like Harris is this year's "low-scoring guard who gets clock because he does the little things right (except he doesn't do the little things right)" guy.

Ugh, I am out of hear for a while. Barf.

Too many dunks and layups. We're terrible at protecting the paint so far this year.

Better today than in the second round of the ncaa tournament.

Newell just pointed this out. Dayton needed a bucket down 3 with a minute to go. Isolated Remy and went right at him. Going to have to figure that out.

Crtrrt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:34 pm Selfs usual stubbornness lossed this

This is spot on. And his stubbornness also stunts the growth of other players. This is Mitches 6th year in the program, and his 5th year playing. And I know the guy plays really hard, but every second he’s in there is a seconds he’s taking away from a guy like KJ or Clemence.

This is the part of his coaching that’s not quite evolved….his inability to trust his young stars and stick with the guys he “trusts”. If you’re going to take a loss, at least take it developing the guys that can really help you in the long run.

This loss shouldn’t really surprise anyone, really.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:48 pm Better today than in the second round of the ncaa tournament.

Absolutely. Players and coaches will learn from this.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:47 pm

AlOerter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:45 pm Yesifu looked better than Harris today.

Obviously there's a ton of season left, but it's sure looking like Harris is this year's "low-scoring guard who gets clock because he does the little things right (except he doesn't do the little things right)" guy.

That’s Selfs fault. If he’s going to take his lumps now, let’s take them with guys like Yes and Bobby. Harris, Lightfoot, those guys are good energy guys/we’re blowing the other team out by 30 with a minute left guys.

Bill really does deserve a ton of flack for that call.

You go to Remy and Och in the previous two offensive possessions and score on both of them. You can work on Dave's confidence the next game.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:53 pm Bill really does deserve a ton of flack for that call.

You go to Remy and Och in the previous two offensive possessions and score on both of them. You can work on Dave's confidence the next game.

I'm in the "that wasn't the call" camp.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:55 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:53 pm Bill really does deserve a ton of flack for that call.

You go to Remy and Och in the previous two offensive possessions and score on both of them. You can work on Dave's confidence the next game.

I'm in the "that wasn't the call" camp.

Remy and Och clearing out to the weakside makes me wonder.

I don't think CB makes that pass without having something in his ear. They had stopped feeding Dave.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:56 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:55 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:53 pm Bill really does deserve a ton of flack for that call.

You go to Remy and Och in the previous two offensive possessions and score on both of them. You can work on Dave's confidence the next game.

I'm in the "that wasn't the call" camp.

Remy and Och clearing out to the weakside makes me wonder.

I don't think CB makes that pass without having something in his ear. They had stopped feeding Dave.

It was absolutely a clearout and a designed play. They looked to him early, then swung it to CB and he got it to Dave.

Ugh, and Dave didn’t even have position or anytbing. Just kinda came out to mid range no-man’s land.

If it wasn’t a Self designed play, it was Dave just getting it cuz everybody else was yet again just standing around, and I dunno which is worse.