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Pettiford was 2 year.

Just trying to suss - is it more the player or the program if the program says “your starting spot is not guaranteed even if you started previously” and the player decides to find somewhere else he is more guaranteed to start?

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:45 pm I maintain if a guy like KJ Adams is leaving Kansas we have a problem.
If a one year guy like Pettiford is leaving Kansas, though i'd love for both parties to work together to stay, it's more understandable.

i don’t get that

it isn’t Self's job to coddle players. if KJ would rather go to a lesser program to be more of a star (presuming he’d be leaving because of a reduced role), that’s on him

it’s Self’s job to win

now, if you wanna say that maybe he shouldn’t have recruited KJ in the first place, then that’s a whole different conversation

If you're actively trying to bring in a transfer ( not a freshman ) to take the spot of a player like KJ I think that's shitty.

I understand that not doing that may ( emphasis on may ) be in the detriment of the program's ultimate success.

I do not care.

Or what if a program tells a player “your jumper just isn’t developed like we expected it would when we first signed you 3 years ago and we want someone who does have a J”

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:54 pm Pettiford was 2 year.

I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have been better than Elmarko this year.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:58 pm If you're actively trying to bring in a transfer ( not a freshman ) to take the spot of a player like KJ I think that's shitty.

I understand that not doing that may ( emphasis on may ) be in the detriment of the program's ultimate success.

I do not care.

This.

has a "guy like kj adams" ever transferred out of the program. not that i can recall.

but. some "guy like kj adams" is going to be the first. that is just the new culture.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:58 pm If you're actively trying to bring in a transfer ( not a freshman ) to take the spot of a player like KJ I think that's shitty.

I understand that not doing that may ( emphasis on may ) be in the detriment of the program's ultimate success.

I do not care.

Choose one!

A. KJ transfers, and we coincidentally sign a seasoned AA-talent forward outta the portal, (or vice versa on the sequence of events, don’t get caught on that here) who leads us to another natty in 25


- or! -


B. KJ returns, plays an even bigger role, and leads KU to “well 24 was supposed to be the worst season of Self’s KU career, but now it’s February 2025 and we’re looking like a conference bottom feeder who prob won’t even make the tournament”

pettiford. yesufu. yesufu. pettiford. worthless dingdongs is what those two are.

…but…maybe the prob was we just weren’t loyal enough to them for another year or two?

I choose C which starts off like the first 2 words of B and then the rest is replaced with a more realistic scenario.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:45 pm I maintain if a guy like KJ Adams is leaving Kansas we have a problem.

multiple times you have made this post. why. are you concerned he may not be on the roster next season. for real.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:22 pm I choose C which starts off like the first 2 words of B and then the rest is replaced with a more realistic scenario.

But isn't, "and excels in a smaller role" a very realistic rest of the scenario?

And what if that's what KU wants, but not what KJ wants?

If Ku recruits a guy better than KJ that could start over him, then whatever happens happens. I like KJ, I hope he stays. I hope he improves over the offseason. He's a really good player in a lot of ways. Good enough it's going to be hard to recruit another forward

But he's undersized and can't shoot, and that's a big limitation on the upside of next years team

i'm gonna go out on no limb at all. and predict that kja will be in our starting line up next season. and play a major role.

KJ Adam's just announced that he will be back

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5RVV7tLLUA ... BoZ255eWRn

"Never was leaving"

upperclassmen are my favorite.

What type of season do we think this lineup/rotation has:
Starters:
DH
Elmarko
McDowell
Kj
HD

Bench: Bidunga, Kugel, Clemence, Philon, Passmore


I don't think we'd be elite, but maybe not terrible?.... 4 seedish?

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:26 pm https://www.instagram.com/p/C5RVV7tLLUA ... BoZ255eWRn

"Never was leaving"

It's wild he even had to make that announcement