Kansas Crimson

Putin supports Trump and attacking children's hospitals. And so does JD Vance.

Oh god fucking damnit.

Tenacious D cancels their tour after Kyle Gass makes a Trump assassination comment.

God fucking damnit!

Pretty dumb comment

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:50 pm Oh god fucking damnit.

Tenacious D cancels their tour after Kyle Gass makes a Trump assassination comment.

God fucking damnit!

It was a great example of a perfect delivery on a joke being a terrible delivery on a joke.

You don't remember Muslims not being allowed in the country during the first (oh, about a) week that Trump was President as his puppeteers tested the courts?
Don't you remember pages of the EPA website literally disappearing?

That was just the warm up. If dt is Pres, life will change. His brand of politics is what young adults are learning now and it is horrible. The not being civil, the interruptions, the not knowing what one is talking about it. Life as we know it will not be pretty in 10 years. The wage gaps will be wider. The rich, taking more of what is ours (the air, the water, etc). you get the idea. You either want to blame someone (new RNC voters) or want a better future for your children (blue voters).

DrPepper wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:47 pm You don't remember Muslims not being allowed in the country during the first (oh, about a) week that Trump was President as his puppeteers tested the courts?
Don't you remember pages of the EPA website literally disappearing?

That was just the warm up. If dt is Pres, life will change. His brand of politics is what young adults are learning now and it is horrible. The not being civil, the interruptions, the not knowing what one is talking about it. Life as we know it will not be pretty in 10 years. The wage gaps will be wider. The rich, taking more of what is ours (the air, the water, etc). you get the idea. You either want to blame someone (new RNC voters) or want a better future for your children (blue voters).

It's going to be cynical rent-seeking, everywhere you look. With precisely the effects you mention, and more - the tandem erosion of public spaces and the barest will for collective action are very much of a piece with the "polarization" that the polarizers will tell you they are against.

But what will we do?
If Tenacious D has died what can we do?
And what will we do for all the fans that have the D tattoo?

Who’s gonna help them getting things out from between their teeth? They hadn’t fucking teamwork.

One thing I been thinking about:

The whole hypo like, “if you had a Time Machine and could go back and kill Hitler, would you do it?”

I would.
It remains to be seen what Trump could do - I very very much doubt it could ever get anywhere close to Hitler in the USA in todays age but we could go backwards by quite a bit as a nation.
So, if I had a Time Machine and the same question was asked of Trump, no, I definitely would not - but i'd sure as hell go forward in the Time Machine 4-8 years and see what we look like and possibly reconsider.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:38 am I would.
It remains to be seen what Trump could do - I very very much doubt it could ever get anywhere close to Hitler in the USA in todays age but we could go backwards by quite a bit as a nation.
So, if I had a Time Machine and the same question was asked of Trump, no, I definitely would not - but i'd sure as hell go forward in the Time Machine 4-8 years and see what we look like and possibly reconsider.

I will say this - finishing Band of Brothers with my boy over the weekend, I found the scenes where Easy Company discovered the camps to be even heavier than they'd normally be. Knowing that one side of our politics wants to see mass, government-coordinated action that will, if undertaken as promised, require putting people of shared characteristics in camps, bearing our symbols and at our expense.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:50 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:38 am I would.
It remains to be seen what Trump could do - I very very much doubt it could ever get anywhere close to Hitler in the USA in todays age but we could go backwards by quite a bit as a nation.
So, if I had a Time Machine and the same question was asked of Trump, no, I definitely would not - but i'd sure as hell go forward in the Time Machine 4-8 years and see what we look like and possibly reconsider.

I will say this - finishing Band of Brothers with my boy over the weekend, I found the scenes where Easy Company discovered the camps to be even heavier than they'd normally be. Knowing that one side of our politics wants to see mass, government-coordinated action that will, if undertaken as promised, require putting people of shared characteristics in camps, bearing our symbols and at our expense.

Taking action against people who knowingly and intentionally broke the laws of this country to come in illegally and are actively draining our resources? THAT'S what bothers you?

Attitudes like this are among the major reasons why our country is in the crapper.

if we aren’t taking actions against our own citizens who break the law, what kind of message does that send to immigrants?

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:23 am if we aren’t taking actions against our own citizens who break the law, what kind of message does that send to immigrants?

Which citizens?

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:38 am I would.
It remains to be seen what Trump could do - I very very much doubt it could ever get anywhere close to Hitler in the USA in todays age but we could go backwards by quite a bit as a nation.
So, if I had a Time Machine and the same question was asked of Trump, no, I definitely would not - but i'd sure as hell go forward in the Time Machine 4-8 years and see what we look like and possibly reconsider.

Yea.

It’s a goofy hypo, cuz we have the benefit of hindsight.

But, with the benefit of hindsight, imagine anyone being like, “oh we’re so sorry someone tried to whack you Adolf, political violence is never okay!”

...of course, with all of the "they tried to take Trump out!" nonsense flying around the MAGAsphere, even the common-sense suggestion that the simplest way to avoid having to see just how much truth there is in the obvious parallels (which - to be clear - we all hope there is none), is at the ballot box and in the mechanisms of our judicial system...is considered, somehow, to be a threat.

Well, the judicial system in and of itself is more of a threat than it should be for a myriad of reasons. At the hi gf est level, perhaps had RBG resigned halfway through Obama’s second term, we wouldn’t be in quite the ominous (as it relates to potential…kinda sorta for now) position of a stacked court with an agenda unbecoming to many.

It’s not an absolute answer, and definitely rolls back into the hindsight perspective…but at its core, her staying on the court was a decision seemingly based on ego, whether or not she deserved to stay or not.

And ego is one of the main forces (as a product of a (actual) narcissistic personality. But, and I’ve said this before, it’s rarely acknowledged as our own fault. See: bitching about the OTHER driver.

Stand back while we plunder everything and crash the planet. Pretty much the MAGA platform.

I saw a video montage somewhere of every time Trump has publicly insinuated, if not explicitly called for, violence against one rival or another.

I guess I’m ideologically nonviolent enough to still be among the “not the answer” crowd. But at the same time, can only feel so sorry

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:50 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:38 am I would.
It remains to be seen what Trump could do - I very very much doubt it could ever get anywhere close to Hitler in the USA in todays age but we could go backwards by quite a bit as a nation.
So, if I had a Time Machine and the same question was asked of Trump, no, I definitely would not - but i'd sure as hell go forward in the Time Machine 4-8 years and see what we look like and possibly reconsider.

I will say this - finishing Band of Brothers with my boy over the weekend, I found the scenes where Easy Company discovered the camps to be even heavier than they'd normally be. Knowing that one side of our politics wants to see mass, government-coordinated action that will, if undertaken as promised, require putting people of shared characteristics in camps, bearing our symbols and at our expense.

Whaddya mean one side?

Cuz there’s been robust bipartisan support for…oh, fuck it, never mind.