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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:36 pm
by Mjl
randylahey wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:50 pm
Mjl wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:05 pm
randylahey wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:04 pm

The point is the standard of living in the US has been falling off decade after decade. The cost of food homes educations is inflating muchhhh higher than wages. Taxes continue to rise.

Many Americans don't have any savings and struggle pay check to pay check.

Fixing that is a much bigger problem than Ukraine/Russias bullshit

Not to mention the "why is Ukraines border more important than our own"
I can't get over how dumb this is.
By what metric has standard of living gone down?
What taxes rose?
I'm not going to explain basic economics to you. You realize that the prices of education, housing, food, are inflating much quicker than wages, and thats been going on in this country for decades right

And new taxes and fees have been added/increasing on everything too
Real wages have gone up over the decades:
https://images.app.goo.gl/rEWi3418ai4sLN8j6

Food prices have dropped over the decades compared to wages: https://images.app.goo.gl/7aRCYYUzBmzkJp8z7

Four year University costs are up, sure.

Tax rates are near their lowest in the last 90ish years.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:46 pm
by Mjl
Here's more recent food vs income data: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... rtId=76967

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:17 pm
by zsn
Shhhhh, Mj,,,,,,they haven’t covered it on Faux News yet. No one can point to what tax has gone up for a family making under $250k/y except for those resulting from lost State and local tax deduction. And the Republicans raised that.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:54 am
by Overlander
randylahey wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:50 pm
Mjl wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:05 pm
randylahey wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:04 pm

The point is the standard of living in the US has been falling off decade after decade. The cost of food homes educations is inflating muchhhh higher than wages. Taxes continue to rise.

Many Americans don't have any savings and struggle pay check to pay check.

Fixing that is a much bigger problem than Ukraine/Russias bullshit

Not to mention the "why is Ukraines border more important than our own"
I can't get over how dumb this is.
By what metric has standard of living gone down?
What taxes rose?
I have no idea how basic economics work, therefore, I have no knowledge of how to explain it to you.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:29 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:34 am
by twocoach
https://apnews.com/article/texas-gonzal ... 9ef6b406a5

Uvalde, TX GOP Rep votes for gun control and is censured for voting for what his constituents have asked for.

Today's GOP.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:32 am
by jfish26
Mjl wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:36 pm
randylahey wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:50 pm
Mjl wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:05 pm

I can't get over how dumb this is.
By what metric has standard of living gone down?
What taxes rose?
I'm not going to explain basic economics to you. You realize that the prices of education, housing, food, are inflating much quicker than wages, and thats been going on in this country for decades right

And new taxes and fees have been added/increasing on everything too
Real wages have gone up over the decades:
https://images.app.goo.gl/rEWi3418ai4sLN8j6

Food prices have dropped over the decades compared to wages: https://images.app.goo.gl/7aRCYYUzBmzkJp8z7

Four year University costs are up, sure.

Tax rates are near their lowest in the last 90ish years.
Now look. I'm not an economics knower.

But an economic environment where (1) unemployment is low, (2) real wages are rising, (3) real food costs are decreasing and (4) four-year education is getting more expensive (squeezing demand for the same downward)...would seem to be...(whispers)...an environment that anti-elite populists like.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:11 am
by Mjl
Don't get me wrong, real food costs are rising the last two years. I was addressing his claims that these things have been going the wrong direction for decades

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:31 pm
by Shirley

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:34 pm
by Shirley
It's sad to be so glad that republicans are suddenly being less fascist.

2024, anyone?

Senate Republicans call Tucker Carlson's report on Jan. 6, "Bullsh&t!"

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:41 pm
by MICHHAWK
tucker carlson is an actor. he just reads the words as they appear on the paper.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:42 pm
by KUTradition
dumb

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:09 pm
by Overlander
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:41 pm tucker carlson is an actor. he just reads the words as they appear on the paper.

Here ya go. A full understanding of how the mind of a complete idiot works.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:12 pm
by MICHHAWK
tucker carlson is paid very handsomely. he will say whatever they tell him to.

if msnbc offered him more money. he would be there tomorrow.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:40 pm
by PhDhawk
The problem isn't whether Tucker believes what Tucker says, the problem is the 3 million viewers who believe him.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:36 pm
by Overlander
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:40 pm The problem isn't whether Tucker believes what Tucker says, the problem is the 3 million viewers who believe him.
Particularly dumb asses that say shit like “tucker carlson is an actor. he just reads the words as they appear on the paper.”

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:39 pm
by PhDhawk
Overlander wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:36 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:40 pm The problem isn't whether Tucker believes what Tucker says, the problem is the 3 million viewers who believe him.
Particularly dumb asses that say shit like “tucker carlson is an actor. he just reads the words as they appear on the paper.”
What's nuts is it seemed like that was Mich's defense of Tucker. As if it makes it better somehow.

But socks don't need to make sense.

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:15 am
by japhy
Here's why it matters. In spite of everything Fox is admitting, and Jenna Elis admitted yesterday in her court hearing, these people are in charge of elections. And they aren't listening to any of what is being said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-qano ... 09287.html

Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:20 pm
by Shirley
You hate to see it:

Prosecutors Signal Criminal Charges for Trump Are Likely

The former president was told that he could appear before a Manhattan grand jury next week if he wishes to testify, a strong indication that an indictment could soon follow.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office recently signaled to Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that he could face criminal charges for his role in the payment of hush money to a porn star, the strongest indication yet that prosecutors are nearing an indictment of the former president, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.

The prosecutors offered Mr. Trump the chance to testify next week before the grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the potential case, the people said. Such offers almost always indicate an indictment is close; it would be unusual for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, to notify a potential defendant without ultimately seeking charges against him.

In New York, potential defendants have the right to answer questions in the grand jury before they are indicted, but they rarely testify, and Mr. Trump is likely to decline the offer. His lawyers could also meet privately with the prosecutors in hopes of fending off criminal charges.

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Re: We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:29 pm
by Overlander
Feral wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:20 pm You hate to see it:

Prosecutors Signal Criminal Charges for Trump Are Likely

The former president was told that he could appear before a Manhattan grand jury next week if he wishes to testify, a strong indication that an indictment could soon follow.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office recently signaled to Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that he could face criminal charges for his role in the payment of hush money to a porn star, the strongest indication yet that prosecutors are nearing an indictment of the former president, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.

The prosecutors offered Mr. Trump the chance to testify next week before the grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the potential case, the people said. Such offers almost always indicate an indictment is close; it would be unusual for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, to notify a potential defendant without ultimately seeking charges against him.

In New York, potential defendants have the right to answer questions in the grand jury before they are indicted, but they rarely testify, and Mr. Trump is likely to decline the offer. His lawyers could also meet privately with the prosecutors in hopes of fending off criminal charges.

[...]
Trump has proven hundreds of times that the ONE thing he actually IS good at is stiff-arming the legal system.