Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:27 am

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:31 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:25 am Are these kids not attending class or being involved in the University? Those things haven't changed at all.

Wait for it.

One of the weirdest hangups people have over the "going to class" thing is the bizarre expectation that athletes' KU experiences are supposed to be exactly like theirs. And it's especially icky when olds (like most of us) do it.

It is time - it is beyond time - for athletes' educational experience and plans to be much MORE like those of other students. Meaning, other than some core classes, athletes should be spending the bulk of their learning time doing things that are specific to their anticipated career path.

Guys like Sasha, god bless 'em and mazel tov. But by and large, we absolutely should not expect, or even want, athletes to have to pursue majors that are fig leaves.

If you want the education to be real - if you want it to make a difference in the athletes' lives and prepare them for a career in athletics (should that be their goal) - then you should encourage and welcome athletes having college experiences that look fundamentally different from the experience of a student who truly chooses a Communications or African American Studies major.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:51 am Yeah, I realize it's self-imposed, just thought being a preemptive measure, it might be a sign that a ruling was on the horizon.

InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:51 am Yeah, I realize it's self-imposed, just thought being a preemptive measure, it might be a sign that a ruling was on the horizon.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:03 am The one guardrail on my optimism, though, is the possibility of new, yet-to-be-revealed allegations. If there is something new out there that is now causing us to change course like this...that would be very very bad news.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:28 am And if there's a time to where you can afford to sit for a period, it's right after a National Championship. If you just say Kansas is interested, it'll perk lots of kids ears up even more than it did before.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:26 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:03 am The one guardrail on my optimism, though, is the possibility of new, yet-to-be-revealed allegations. If there is something new out there that is now causing us to change course like this...that would be very very bad news.

I don't think KU would be pulling coaches off of the recruiting trail as a response to new allegations. It just feels like they are starting to dole out some self-imposed punishments that they feel they can deal with. Self and Townsend off the recruiting trail for a bit is not much of a big deal being that coaches can still contact recruits in a variety of ways. I don't think this is very complicated at all.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:29 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:26 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:03 am The one guardrail on my optimism, though, is the possibility of new, yet-to-be-revealed allegations. If there is something new out there that is now causing us to change course like this...that would be very very bad news.

I don't think KU would be pulling coaches off of the recruiting trail as a response to new allegations. It just feels like they are starting to dole out some self-imposed punishments that they feel they can deal with. Self and Townsend off the recruiting trail for a bit is not much of a big deal being that coaches can still contact recruits in a variety of ways. I don't think this is very complicated at all.

The complicated is the “why,” not the “what.”

There is no way we would do this just because. There’s a reason, and the reason matters a lot.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:34 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:28 am And if there's a time to where you can afford to sit for a period, it's right after a National Championship. If you just say Kansas is interested, it'll perk lots of kids ears up even more than it did before.

100% agree on the timing.

Self was very aware of the national title drought like the rest of us. You could hear it in so many of his comments since winning it in April.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:38 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:34 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:28 am And if there's a time to where you can afford to sit for a period, it's right after a National Championship. If you just say Kansas is interested, it'll perk lots of kids ears up even more than it did before.

100% agree on the timing.

Self was very aware of the national title drought like the rest of us. You could hear it in so many of his comments since winning it in April.

Yep. I fully agree that the national title has put KU and Self in a different spot and makes it easier for them to take a "hit" with a self imposed punishment of some sort. That natty recruits itself right now.

And frankly, I don't see the lack of Self and Townsend in person at a few events over one summer as a major hit. Coaches have ample means of staying in contact with kids, most of whom are addicted to their phones and probably prefer dealing with people electronically vs in person.