Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:52 am
why does Ukraine (and Sweden and Finland) want to join NATO?
Wrong Iraq War analogy. The current Ukraine situation is closer to the 1991 scenario. “Insane dictator attacks neighbor”. Only difference now is that we didn’t equip said insane dictator.
pretty sure that what Gates is gearing up to do too thoKUTradition wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:41 am https://www.forbes.com/sites/salgilbert ... raine/amp/
nothing like weaponizing global food supplies
i definitely don’t disagree with your latter pointTDub wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:27 ampretty sure that what Gates is gearing up to do too thoKUTradition wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:41 am https://www.forbes.com/sites/salgilbert ... raine/amp/
nothing like weaponizing global food supplies
we are too intertwined in globalization.
We could all benefit from being more localized with our food production and consumption.
Won't happen, we're too far down the road and too many cities that are too big to make that possible.
Just saying, world would be better off and more sustainable that way and people would be more aware and connected to their food and the land that creates it.
Interesting. Definitely a need but no mention of the methodology of SEEElection.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:56 pm This is getting fun now.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/opi ... draft.html
"This model would alleviate the incredible pressure on our recruiters, lower the cost of finding new troops, and significantly reduce the much decried civilian-military gap by subjecting all of America's youth -- rich and poor -- to the possibility of military service via the draft.jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:15 amInteresting. Definitely a need but no mention of the methodology of SEEElection.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:56 pm This is getting fun now.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/opi ... draft.html
The article doesn't specify but I suspect no college kids are going to get drafted.twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:23 am"This model would alleviate the incredible pressure on our recruiters, lower the cost of finding new troops, and significantly reduce the much decried civilian-military gap by subjecting all of America's youth -- rich and poor -- to the possibility of military service via the draft.jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:15 amInteresting. Definitely a need but no mention of the methodology of SEEElection.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:56 pm This is getting fun now.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/opi ... draft.html
This increased public interest might also have the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan."
Yeah, fuck off with that. I wonder what the drop in volunteer numbers would be if they instituted a draft. You think American confidence in its military is at a low now? Start forcing more college aged kids to lose pace with their peers in their pursuit of their careers by drafting them and making them serve in the military.
Take the billions of dollars hemorrhaging out of the defense budget into the pockets of defense contractors and spend it on recruitment. Like every other job out there, PAY MORE and people will take those jobs.
"College aged". Kids that age that are laying the groundwork, trying to build their future. Hitting the pause button on that process, whatever it may be, puts them behind their peers they are competing against in their career paths. If they aren't going to college them maybe they are working towards careers that require apprenticeships, internships etc... and being multiple years behind may be seen as crippling their careers before it even starts. If you want to be a plumber, an electrician, or some other field that doesn't require a college degree specifically.jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:28 amThe article doesn't specify but I suspect no college kids are going to get drafted.twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:23 am"This model would alleviate the incredible pressure on our recruiters, lower the cost of finding new troops, and significantly reduce the much decried civilian-military gap by subjecting all of America's youth -- rich and poor -- to the possibility of military service via the draft.
This increased public interest might also have the added effect of increasing public pressure to prevent open-ended wars led by unaccountable senior leaders like we experienced in our national debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan."
Yeah, fuck off with that. I wonder what the drop in volunteer numbers would be if they instituted a draft. You think American confidence in its military is at a low now? Start forcing more college aged kids to lose pace with their peers in their pursuit of their careers by drafting them and making them serve in the military.
Take the billions of dollars hemorrhaging out of the defense budget into the pockets of defense contractors and spend it on recruitment. Like every other job out there, PAY MORE and people will take those jobs.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that college students would most likely not be eligible for a draft were it to happen for the exact reasons that you stated. The power brokers pushing such a change through were it to happen would never want THEIR kids sent off to serve in the military, but they would be fine with kids they see as "less valuable" i.e. "just a plumber".