Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:10 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:58 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:41 pm are those STILL supporting trump at this point doing anything to suggest they actually would prefer a functioning, constitutional democracy over an authoritarian/autocratic state?

Not one bit

Maybe the fact that Trump, despite being a former President, has failed to make it to even 60% of the vote in any of these Primaries so far should be viewed as "encouraging", I don't know. I don't have enough knowledge of what would be expected of a President in this case largely because I don't recall there ever being a former President who lost re-election and then ran again to compare it to.

I just see thousands of items that should each be disqualifiers, each more heinous than the last that just never end up getting rid of him. He's the ultimate unsquishable cockroach.

I am just so done with this era of Trumpism. The hatred and nauseating, vile repulsiveness of it have worn me out.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:17 pm pace yourself. it's a long way til november. you're gonna burn out.

it's a marathon not a sprint.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:20 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:10 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:58 pm

Not one bit

Maybe the fact that Trump, despite being a former President, has failed to make it to even 60% of the vote in any of these Primaries so far should be viewed as "encouraging", I don't know. I don't have enough knowledge of what would be expected of a President in this case largely because I don't recall there ever being a former President who lost re-election and then ran again to compare it to.

I just see thousands of items that should each be disqualifiers, each more heinous than the last that just never end up getting rid of him. He's the ultimate unsquishable cockroach.

I am just so done with this era of Trumpism. The hatred and nauseating, vile repulsiveness of it have worn me out.

It's literally brother-against-brother.

And I hold GOP members of Congress, and the political media, much more responsible than I do the voters.

The Biden impeachment nonsense is a great example - Grassley, Comer & Pals knew without a doubt that the evidence was squishy, and probably made up. And yet they, aided by the media, used their asymmetrical access to information and access to microphones to knowingly make shit up.

But this has played out OVER AND OVER AND OVER again, in nearly every single political issue or story for the last ten years.

The people we have elected to use their access and privilege, and the people we trust to tell us what those people are doing and why, have failed us.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:20 pm It's literally brother-against-brother.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:10 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:58 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:41 pm are those STILL supporting trump at this point doing anything to suggest they actually would prefer a functioning, constitutional democracy over an authoritarian/autocratic state?

Not one bit

I am just so done with this era of Trumpism. The hatred and nauseating, vile repulsiveness of it have worn me out.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:24 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:20 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:10 pm

Maybe the fact that Trump, despite being a former President, has failed to make it to even 60% of the vote in any of these Primaries so far should be viewed as "encouraging", I don't know. I don't have enough knowledge of what would be expected of a President in this case largely because I don't recall there ever being a former President who lost re-election and then ran again to compare it to.

I just see thousands of items that should each be disqualifiers, each more heinous than the last that just never end up getting rid of him. He's the ultimate unsquishable cockroach.

I am just so done with this era of Trumpism. The hatred and nauseating, vile repulsiveness of it have worn me out.

It's literally brother-against-brother.

And I hold GOP members of Congress, and the political media, much more responsible than I do the voters.

The Biden impeachment nonsense is a great example - Grassley, Comer & Pals knew without a doubt that the evidence was squishy, and probably made up. And yet they, aided by the media, used their asymmetrical access to information and access to microphones to knowingly make shit up.

But this has played out OVER AND OVER AND OVER again, in nearly every single political issue or story for the last ten years.

The people we have elected to use their access and privilege, and the people we trust to tell us what those people are doing and why, have failed us.

Even worse, they have done exactly what they were voted into office to do. Those who have dared to go against Trumpism have been run out.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:06 pm The fun is just beginning!

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:41 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:01 pm

Sometimes, I assume too much.

https://allpoetry.com/The-Solution

From your link.

Analysis (ai): This poem confronts the disconnect between government and people, particularly in the aftermath of political unrest. By satirically suggesting that the government dissolve the people, the author exposes the absurdity of holding the people accountable for their government's failures. "The Solution" differs from Brecht's other works by taking an explicitly political stance, highlighting his growing disillusionment with communism. The poem is also characteristic of the post-war era, where disillusionment and political challenges were prevalent. It reflects Brecht's lifelong commitment to social justice and his belief in the power of art to critique the status quo.

I just find it absurd that some people review the performance of Trump and the symptoms and backlash of Trumpism and say "hey, let's roll it back with that guy". I hear all the time that the GOP wants to move on from Trumpism but the real world data doesn't seem to reflect that.

Correct.

You hate the voters for fucking up "muh democracy (TM)" which is kinda hilarious.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:54 pm This thread is fun.

japhy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:18 pm
Fine, if I squint really hard when I reads it I sorta sees it.

Overlander wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:21 pm Trump did nothing that would gain him supporters in his 4 year masterclass in fucking everything up. Quite the opposite.

It cost him the 2020 election.

Now, he and his cult are making a last ditch run to burn it all down.

How anyone cannot see this is the tough part for me to grasp.

japhy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:18 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:41 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 pm
From your link.

Analysis (ai): This poem confronts the disconnect between government and people, particularly in the aftermath of political unrest. By satirically suggesting that the government dissolve the people, the author exposes the absurdity of holding the people accountable for their government's failures. "The Solution" differs from Brecht's other works by taking an explicitly political stance, highlighting his growing disillusionment with communism. The poem is also characteristic of the post-war era, where disillusionment and political challenges were prevalent. It reflects Brecht's lifelong commitment to social justice and his belief in the power of art to critique the status quo.

I just find it absurd that some people review the performance of Trump and the symptoms and backlash of Trumpism and say "hey, let's roll it back with that guy". I hear all the time that the GOP wants to move on from Trumpism but the real world data doesn't seem to reflect that.

Correct.

You hate the voters for fucking up "muh democracy (TM)" which is kinda hilarious.

Maybe this helps.

So, in 2016 the Rubepublicans went to the polls and used democratic means to elect their favored sociopath. They loved it so much they wanted to be grifted and chaosed and blatherpandered at for 4 more years!

But they found democratic means were not sufficient to get a majority of people to run the orange skinned shitshow back for 4 MORE YEARS!

So they tried a coup and now are using every bureaucratic/institutional weapon/tool they can get their hands on to circumvent/manipulate the democratic process in the next election so that once they get the control of the steering wheel they can run their clowncar off a cliff and destroy the democratic process because it does not look like it will give them their intended results in the future either.

This is sorta where we are…it’s not fancy pants poetry but god damn it I ain’t never claimed to be a fuckin poet.

I·ro·ny

noun
• 1.the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect: "“Don't go overboard with the gratitude,” he rejoined with heavy irony"

Is it ironic that antidemocratic forces are using a democratic process in their endeavor to destroy the democratic process?

OK, I sees it.

Is it ironic that the supporters of the democratic process find it abhorrent that the antidemocratic forces will use a democratic process when it suits them knowing they might again try to burn it all to the ground when it doesn’t?

Fine, if I squint really hard when I reads it I sorta sees it.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:02 pm

japhy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:18 pm
Fine, if I squint really hard when I reads it I sorta sees it.

Can you read it now?