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Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:26 pm
by Deleted User 89
i didn’t realize Virgin’s or Amazon‘s financial success depended on successful commercialization of space flight

learn something new everyday

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:27 pm
by twocoach
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:21 pm 1) there are parts of the economy that would benefit more from those investments

2) investing in our environment and/or conservation of the natural world has benefits far beyond economic ones, but those investments also benefit the economy in a much more lasting way
<sarcasm> I will assume then that every penny you spend is yo maximize it's impact on society as a whole. </sarcasm>
GTFO with that nonsense.

It cracks me up that people think that no one has a right to tell them what to do with their money but they sure find it easy to tell others what to do with their money.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:30 pm
by MICHHAWK
as they get richer, the toys get fancier.

minus the bleeding hearts who pretend to care about everything, who cares.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:37 pm
by Deleted User 89
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:27 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:21 pm 1) there are parts of the economy that would benefit more from those investments

2) investing in our environment and/or conservation of the natural world has benefits far beyond economic ones, but those investments also benefit the economy in a much more lasting way
<sarcasm> I will assume then that every penny you spend is yo maximize it's impact on society as a whole. </sarcasm>
GTFO with that nonsense.

It cracks me up that people think that no one has a right to tell them what to do with their money but they sure find it easy to tell others what to do with their money.
i sure as hell try and be thoughtful about how i spend/invest my money, the businesses i support and the footprint i leave

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:38 pm
by Deleted User 89
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:30 pm as they get richer, the toys get fancier.

minus the bleeding hearts who pretend to care about everything, who cares.
you obviously do, despite your professions to the contrary

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:54 pm
by twocoach
People lose their minds when it comes to really wealthy people.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:04 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:54 pm People lose their minds when it comes to really wealthy people.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:24 pm
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:04 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:54 pm People lose their minds when it comes to really wealthy people.
I mean, yeah, this is true.

But also, look at the juxtaposition/timing of events.

We're coming out of a global pandemic, the environmental issues we're seeing (it was 130 degreed in death valley yesterday), there was a recent expose about the super rich not paying income tax that went viral, financial inequality keeps getting worse and worse, and is under more and more scrutiny. And, it's not 1, but 3 multi-billionaires, in a literal race to do space tourism. They don't have the far reaching long term goals of NASA. They're goal is space tourism which is just more rich people doing more expensive tours.

I'm not loosing sleep over it, but you'd be crazy not to think there'd be blow-back on this.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:33 pm
by Deleted User 863
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:24 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:04 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:54 pm People lose their minds when it comes to really wealthy people.
I mean, yeah, this is true.

But also, look at the juxtaposition/timing of events.

We're coming out of a global pandemic, the environmental issues we're seeing (it was 130 degreed in death valley yesterday), there was a recent expose about the super rich not paying income tax that went viral, financial inequality keeps getting worse and worse, and is under more and more scrutiny. And, it's not 1, but 3 multi-billionaires, in a literal race to do space tourism. They don't have the far reaching long term goals of NASA. They're goal is space tourism which is just more rich people doing more expensive tours.

I'm not loosing sleep over it, but you'd be crazy not to think there'd be blow-back on this.
Agreed.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:42 pm
by Deleted User 89
i honestly care less about Musk and his effort to get to Mars than i do these two clowns, for exactly the reason phd mentioned...there is something greater at stake than a joyride into space for the uber wealthy

attaining the scientific ability to successfully man a mission to Mars has much more merit, imo

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:44 pm
by pdub
I think they can do whatever they want with their money but still get called out for it.
As mentioned, this isn't something for the good of mankind.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:13 pm
by twocoach
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:24 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:04 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:54 pm People lose their minds when it comes to really wealthy people.
I mean, yeah, this is true.

But also, look at the juxtaposition/timing of events.

We're coming out of a global pandemic, the environmental issues we're seeing (it was 130 degreed in death valley yesterday), there was a recent expose about the super rich not paying income tax that went viral, financial inequality keeps getting worse and worse, and is under more and more scrutiny. And, it's not 1, but 3 multi-billionaires, in a literal race to do space tourism. They don't have the far reaching long term goals of NASA. They're goal is space tourism which is just more rich people doing more expensive tours.

I'm not loosing sleep over it, but you'd be crazy not to think there'd be blow-back on this.
Rich people doing frivolous things always sets someone in a group of normal people into a tizzy. It will always be that way so this is exactly what I thought would happen.

I personally think it's neat that this is a real thing that can be done. To see it dovetail alongside polling that people are as optimistic about our future as they have been in more than a decade is encouraging and shows that people are wanting to do bold things again after having been cooped up for a year.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanpo ... oll-shows/

If we stopped bitching and whining about whether rich people (who probably donate more to charity in a few years than I could possibly give in my lifetime) and enjoyed the fact that we are living in the dawn of commercial space exploration, we could be more excited for what this may mean to the lives of our children and grandchildren.

Rich people throwing stupid amounts of money at things for their own ego, enjoyment or bragging rights has led to many great advances in our lifetimes. Just let them; it may lead to something really good down the line.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:27 pm
by Deleted User 89
“Rich people throwing stupid amounts of money at things for their own ego, enjoyment or bragging rights has led to many great advances in our lifetimes.”

such as?

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:28 pm
by Deleted User 887
A quick and simple Google search shows that Branson and Bezos both give literally billons of dollars of their money for the environment and/or conservation.
Therefore, I'll cut them some slack when they spend some their money on hobbies and quests that interest them - and others.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:05 pm
by ChalkRocker
ironic

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:37 pm
by ousdahl
What’s this do for Amazon’s rep as an employer? It was already not great.

Imagine working a $29k a year job that somehow makes packing boxes stressful, and finding out your boss spent $28 million on an amusement ride.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:41 pm
by ousdahl
oh, and how many taxpayers will get to go on these space vacations?

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:54 pm
by Deleted User 887
ousdahl wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:37 pm What’s this do for Amazon’s rep as an employer? It was already not great.

Imagine working a $29k a year job that somehow makes packing boxes stressful, and finding out your boss spent $28 million on an amusement ride.
Jeff Bezos isn't the "boss" at Amazon.
Amazon employs over 1 million people world wide. My guess is many if not most employed by Amazon are well aware their "Executive Chairman" is an extremely wealthy man and very few of them give a flying (pun intended) fuck that Bezos spends a very small fraction of his 100 billion plus net worth on "an amusement ride".
But hey, what the fuck do I know?

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Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:44 pm
by MICHHAWK
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:24 pm I'm not loosing sleep over it, but you'd be crazy not to think there'd be blow-back on this.
Not sure deviants and malcontents blubbering on the interwebs counts as blow-back.

Re: Totally random thread

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:24 pm
by PhDhawk
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:44 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:24 pm I'm not loosing sleep over it, but you'd be crazy not to think there'd be blow-back on this.
Not sure deviants and malcontents blubbering on the interwebs counts as blow-back.
Plenty of national media backlash.

But I know, the folks don't read the Atlantic or the Guardian.