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ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:42 pm It’s not that I think that US foreign policy is bad, period.

It’s that I think that when our own foreign policy and military is to be actively sowing discord, sending guns and bombs, training fighters, etc. in places like Ukraine and Taiwan - which is to say, places we’re using as proxies on the respective doorsteps of bigger imperial rivals - I just don’t think it should be that big a surprise when said rivals start “patrolling” our doorsteps, too.

And, thank the lord it’s only patrolling, right? The last headline I saw said that US officials don’t consider the patrolling to be a threat.

Hopefully the imperial rivals’ patrolling doesn’t escalate to arming proxies on our doorstep too!

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:41 pm are you aware of what iran has been doing in the Straight of Hormuz?

are you aware of what both china and russia have been doing of the coast of Alaska?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:52 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:41 pm are you aware of what iran has been doing in the Straight of Hormuz?

are you aware of what both china and russia have been doing of the coast of Alaska?

Do you ever wonder why?

zsn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:35 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:42 pm It’s not that I think that US foreign policy is bad, period.

It’s that I think that when our own foreign policy and military is to be actively sowing discord, sending guns and bombs, training fighters, etc. in places like Ukraine and Taiwan - which is to say, places we’re using as proxies on the respective doorsteps of bigger imperial rivals - I just don’t think it should be that big a surprise when said rivals start “patrolling” our doorsteps, too.

And, thank the lord it’s only patrolling, right? The last headline I saw said that US officials don’t consider the patrolling to be a threat.

Hopefully the imperial rivals’ patrolling doesn’t escalate to arming proxies on our doorstep too!

Looks like you’re haunted by the ghost of Rep Hamilton Fish III.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:48 pm except the US wasn’t providing any sort of appreciable level of military support to Ukraine until russia decided to bully…and even then, it was only non-lethal until 2017

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:10 am

zsn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:35 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:42 pm It’s not that I think that US foreign policy is bad, period.

It’s that I think that when our own foreign policy and military is to be actively sowing discord, sending guns and bombs, training fighters, etc. in places like Ukraine and Taiwan - which is to say, places we’re using as proxies on the respective doorsteps of bigger imperial rivals - I just don’t think it should be that big a surprise when said rivals start “patrolling” our doorsteps, too.

And, thank the lord it’s only patrolling, right? The last headline I saw said that US officials don’t consider the patrolling to be a threat.

Hopefully the imperial rivals’ patrolling doesn’t escalate to arming proxies on our doorstep too!

Looks like you’re haunted by the ghost of Rep Hamilton Fish III.

I don’t get it. Care to elaborate?

A cursory search suggests he was some lawmaker who was doggedly anti-commie while also maybe a little too cozy with nazism…?

zsn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:35 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:42 pm It’s not that I think that US foreign policy is bad, period.

It’s that I think that when our own foreign policy and military is to be actively sowing discord, sending guns and bombs, training fighters, etc. in places like Ukraine and Taiwan - which is to say, places we’re using as proxies on the respective doorsteps of bigger imperial rivals - I just don’t think it should be that big a surprise when said rivals start “patrolling” our doorsteps, too.

And, thank the lord it’s only patrolling, right? The last headline I saw said that US officials don’t consider the patrolling to be a threat.

Hopefully the imperial rivals’ patrolling doesn’t escalate to arming proxies on our doorstep too!

Looks like you’re haunted by the ghost of Rep Hamilton Fish III.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:51 am Zsn, which republicans do you think are marks for Putin? Please be specific.

And do you think the Ukraine war, of all things, has divided Merica?

If anything, it seems to have potentially done more to unite a majority Americans, in almost a post -9/11 kinda way, against anyone who tries to make any criticism of our own warmongering - just look at this thread! - despite the Ukraine war arriving on the coattails of the egg-on-face that was Afghanistan and Iraq.

But, man, that post. Comparing Putin to literal Hitler, while also giving credit to some nazi. Or, would you please articulate how this nazi was also a champion of civil rights?

zsn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:59 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:51 am Zsn, which republicans do you think are marks for Putin? Please be specific.

And do you think the Ukraine war, of all things, has divided Merica?

If anything, it seems to have potentially done more to unite a majority Americans, in almost a post -9/11 kinda way, against anyone who tries to make any criticism of our own warmongering - just look at this thread! - despite the Ukraine war arriving on the coattails of the egg-on-face that was Afghanistan and Iraq.

But, man, that post. Comparing Putin to literal Hitler, while also giving credit to some nazi. Or, would you please articulate how this nazi was also a champion of civil rights?

Which Republican isn’t a Putin tool? Maybe Lindsay, because he’s a Military Industrial Complex shill?

Your arguments here and the rest of the MAGA cult are evidence that Russian invasion of Ukraine has divided us. But your characterization of how it’s united the country is showing how you have bought into the division.

Actual Hitler attacked his neighbors and built a propaganda machine to stave off governments forming an alliance against him. How is what Putin doing any different? He has kompramat on the cult master, thus dividing public opinion in the one country capable of organizing an opposition.

It’s easy enough to read the biography of Hamilton Fish III and the America First movement.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:45 pm Howsabout a prescribed #StandWithTheMoon campaign by western media?

We can put it on porch flags and bumper stickers and everything!

Then have congress and potus pleading for more and more lethal aid by the billions to “the moon people.”

And if you question it, don’t question it, oh DO NOT question it, that’s just you being a Putin parrot to divide the country!