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Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:59 pm
by TDub
Sparko wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:53 pm
TDub wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:48 pm
jfish26 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:40 pm

DJIA is up 5000 points since election day. Big chair man do good.
I realize I'm just arguing to argue....I totally understand that.

But, DJIA up 15% COL up 13% Food up 20% fuel up 38%

no good.
Food and fuel spikes are Russian invasion related.
lol. Russia contributes to it, sure. But it's incredibly over simplifying it to distill it to that single issue. Both were increasing prior to Putin and his Pirates stirring up the black sea.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:04 pm
by Sparko
Russia in collaboration with OPEC, especially KSA, have drastically cut oil production as a means to punish the U. S. for Russian sanctions (and help Trump by using the purse as a bludgeon in the next election) Ukraine provided a subtantial amount of the world's grain. Panic from losing those imports coupled with scarcity of oil has led to almost all non Fed interest hike inflicted inflation. The Fed was incredibly short-sighted increasing interest rates in a world emergency. The loss of oil and the tenuous nature of the supply chain post-COVID are mostly to blame for your expensive Cheerios. But Biden.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:11 pm
by TDub
was I blaming Biden specifically?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:14 pm
by TDub
The US is top 3 in grain exports and top 5 in Oil exports in the world.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:07 pm
by TDub
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... biden-poll?


"on average Americans are spending $750 a month more compared to last year"

That is a huge number. No it's not all Biden, yes it will impact voters. No it's not some insignificant marginal change that people are upset about because of their voting preferences

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:14 pm
by DCHawk1
You have to remember, Sparko is insane.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:44 pm
by jhawks99
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:14 pm You have to remember, Sparko is insane.
I'd rather have a beer with Sparko than Randy.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:01 pm
by JKLivin
TDub wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:07 pm https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... biden-poll?


"on average Americans are spending $750 a month more compared to last year"

That is a huge number. No it's not all Biden, yes it will impact voters. No it's not some insignificant marginal change that people are upset about because of their voting preferences
The only thing that matters is the economy. Biden never figured that out.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:01 pm
by randylahey
Biden administrations collusion with big tech to censor your speech is officially going before the Supreme Court

Violating your 1st amendment rights is pretty fucked. Wanna be dictators, wanting to control what you can say and think

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:14 pm
by TDub
randylahey wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:01 pm Biden administrations collusion with big tech to censor your speech is officially going before the Supreme Court

Violating your 1st amendment rights is pretty fucked. Wanna be dictators, wanting to control what you can say and think
I mean.....yea, but, also, you're gonna be shocked when you find out about the modern Republicans.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:25 pm
by Sparko
Sanity doesn't resonate with right wingers. Badge of fucking honor.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:28 pm
by Sparko
TDub wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:11 pm was I blaming Biden specifically?
You were not. But the discussion point by Randy, et al, is that he somehow is responsible for MBS and Putin.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:19 pm
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:01 pm Biden administrations collusion with big tech to censor your speech is officially going before the Supreme Court

Violating your 1st amendment rights is pretty fucked. Wanna be dictators, wanting to control what you can say and think
Giggle.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:24 pm
by DCHawk1
jhawks99 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:44 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:14 pm You have to remember, Sparko is insane.
I'd rather have a beer with Sparko than Randy.
Sparky is harmless insane, mostly.

Randy isn't necessarily harmless.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:42 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
jhawks99 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:44 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:14 pm You have to remember, Sparko is insane.
I'd rather have a beer with Sparko than Randy.
I would rather drink bleach and/or colonoscopy prep with Sparko than have any beverage with randy.

So.....
Does Uncle Joe take/get any credit (that he doesn't deserve?) for the return of the two American hostages?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:24 am
by randylahey
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:42 am
jhawks99 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:44 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:14 pm You have to remember, Sparko is insane.
I'd rather have a beer with Sparko than Randy.
I would rather drink bleach and/or colonoscopy prep with Sparko than have any beverage with randy.

So.....
Does Uncle Joe take/get any credit (that he doesn't deserve?) for the return of the two American hostages?
You could blame him just as easily. He forked over 6 billion in exchange for 5 people. He incentivized taking American hostages

And oh yeah, that 6 billion was funneled into hamas and helped fund terrorism

But sure yeah, let's just give him credit

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:26 am
by randylahey
And that's because liberals are the dividing force of this nation. I would have no problem drinking a beer with any of you even though you think differently politically than me

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:37 am
by Shirley
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:42 am
jhawks99 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:44 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:14 pm You have to remember, Sparko is insane.
I'd rather have a beer with Sparko than Randy.
I would rather drink bleach and/or colonoscopy prep with Sparko than have any beverage with randy.

So.....
Does Uncle Joe take/get any credit (that he doesn't deserve?) for the return of the two American hostages?
Some. No doubt Biden changed the calculus for Hamas/Iran/Hezbollah, et al, by responding to the massacre as aggressively as he did, guaranteeing Israels future so vociferously, traveling to Israel and transferring major military assets to the area. But releasing the two Americans is propaganda, a public relations gesture by Hamas. Hamas wants to appear reasonable and sympathetic to the world, while creating drama and friction between Israel and the US, and possibly delay an Israeli invasion because... What if Hamas is willing to release more, all of the American hostages, but Israel blows that opportunity to smithereens by invading and killing hundreds/thousands of Palestinians while pursuing reasonable, virtuous Hamas, and the American hostages die in the process?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:29 am
by KUTradition
Shirley wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:37 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:42 am
jhawks99 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:44 pm

I'd rather have a beer with Sparko than Randy.
I would rather drink bleach and/or colonoscopy prep with Sparko than have any beverage with randy.

So.....
Does Uncle Joe take/get any credit (that he doesn't deserve?) for the return of the two American hostages?
Some. No doubt Biden changed the calculus for Hamas/Iran/Hezbollah, et al, by responding to the massacre as aggressively as he did, guaranteeing Israels future so vociferously, traveling to Israel and transferring major military assets to the area. But releasing the two Americans is propaganda, a public relations gesture by Hamas. Hamas wants to appear reasonable and sympathetic to the world, while creating drama and friction between Israel and the US, and possibly delay an Israeli invasion because... What if Hamas is willing to release more, all of the American hostages, but Israel blows that opportunity to smithereens by invading and killing hundreds/thousands of Palestinians while pursuing reasonable, virtuous Hamas, and the American hostages die in the process?
i’ve not seen anyone mention it specifically, but i’m heartened by the fact that the “imminent” ground invasion of gaza has yet to happen

i don’t think this would at all be the case if not for the work of both Blinken and Biden. to their credit, they’ve dimplomacy’d the fuck out of this situation

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:01 am
by Overlander
randylahey wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:26 am I would have no problem drinking a beer with any of you even though you think differently politically than me
And yet, not one taker…..