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Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:18 pm
by DCHawk1
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:11 pm wait, what about last night makes it the moment we assume Trump finally shot himself in the dick?
There's the key for you, I'd imagine.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:24 pm
by PhDhawk
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:18 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:13 pm and regarding how to fix the police problem, a lawyer friend suggests we "demand racial justice policies in law enforcement, including qualified immunity reform and mandatory implicit bias training"
Good. That's a start.

Libertarians have been arguing to end qualified immunity for decades. And it's not conservatives fighting them. So...good. We're all on board.

Minneapolis spent in the neighborhood of $1.8 million (most from a one-time federal grant) to do mandatory bias training in 2015.

OK. So...now what?
But...I'm not an expert so correct me if I'm wrong...This incident pretty clearly falls outside of the protections of qualified immunity, right?

And, don't we want SOME form of protection for LEOs? I mean, we're asking them to run toward danger, while everyone else is supposed to go away from it. So, they really aren't the same as every other citizen, in that regard.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:33 pm
by ousdahl
when we went through this same shit 5-6 years ago, wasn't "increased use of body cams" high on the list? For the benefit and protection of cops and civilians alike?

I saw the Louisville police chief was fired cuz his cops killed an unarmed black BBQ joint owner and - surprise! - didn't have their body cams recording when they did it.

RIP David McAtee.

Yes, cops are still killing people of color at protests against cops killing people of color, sigh.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:37 pm
by ousdahl
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:18 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:11 pm wait, what about last night makes it the moment we assume Trump finally shot himself in the dick?
There's the key for you, I'd imagine.
for me? huh?

do you think something about last night really was enough of a gaffe that it might change the minds of at least some Trump republicans?

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:03 pm
by DCHawk1
This is an important thread:


Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:04 pm
by DCHawk1
As is this.


Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:08 pm
by Deleted User 318
Lulz.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:15 pm
by Geezer
I'm an old man DC, I've seen this happen my entire life. It's not changing.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:23 pm
by DCHawk1
NiceDC wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:08 pmLulz.
rong won

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm
by Shirley

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 pm
by DCHawk1
Feral wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm
lulz, DC is so dum that he blames Democrats for Trump! What an asshole.

Oh, BTW read this great letter.







From a guy whom we abused for eight years as ChmipyMcBushitler.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:57 pm
by twocoach
Feral wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm
I like the first reply to it...
"You know we are in the Upside Down when George W. Bush is on Team BLM while Kanye is on Team MAGA."

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:59 pm
by Deleted User 89
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 pm
Feral wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm
lulz, DC is so dum that he blames Democrats for Trump! What an asshole.

Oh, BTW read this great letter.







From a guy whom we abused for eight years as ChmipyMcBushitler.
why is any of that commentary necessary?

seriously, is it that hard to just say “good for him...that’s the kind of presidential statement our country needs right now”

you get so caught up in trying to keep everyone “grounded” (for lack of a better term)

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:04 pm
by DCHawk1
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:59 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 pm
Feral wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm
lulz, DC is so dum that he blames Democrats for Trump! What an asshole.

Oh, BTW read this great letter.







From a guy whom we abused for eight years as ChmipyMcBushitler.
why is any of that commentary necessary?

seriously, is it that hard to just say “good for him...that’s the kind of presidential statement our country needs right now”

you get so caught up in trying to keep everyone “grounded” (for lack of a better term)
Was posting the letter necessary?

Seriously, is it that hard to say "Well, maybe I WAS an asshole for eight years.

you get so caught up in trying to keep me "grounded" (for lack of a better term)

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:12 pm
by zsn
The contrarian me will say that GWB is about 20 years too late and somewhat disingenuous considering that none other than Karl Rove has been described as being his brain. They were not the pioneers of divisive politics but they did peddle a lot of us-vs.-them politics.

Still, I do give him a lot of credit for injecting a voice of reason and giving decent Republicans (I think he is a decent human unlike his VP) a platform to support and distinguish themselves from The Orange One. A refreshing change from the Cornyns, McConnells, Grahams of the world who have revealed themselves to be vile and cowardly.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:16 pm
by ousdahl
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:04 pm

Was posting the letter necessary?

bro you're the one who wanted to hear from him.
DCHawk1 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:41 pm
chiknbut wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:35 pm I'm thinking right about now would be a good time to hear from Michelle Obama.
^^^^^^

I'll go you one better: Michelle and GWB, together.

And once he speaks up, your reaction is, "man libs were assholes for 8 years." Speaking of peddling in us vs. them politics.

now I'm curious to hear how you might react if and when Michelle speaks up.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:16 pm
by Shirley
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:59 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 pm
Feral wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:41 pm
lulz, DC is so dum that he blames Democrats for Trump! What an asshole.

Oh, BTW read this great letter.


From a guy whom we abused for eight years as ChmipyMcBushitler.
why is any of that commentary necessary?

seriously, is it that hard to just say “good for him...that’s the kind of presidential statement our country needs right now”

you get so caught up in trying to keep everyone “grounded” (for lack of a better term)
DC is so tribal, zero-sum, scorched earth, he can't bear it when anyone else isn't.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:23 pm
by twocoach
Some people just like to argue and hurl insults whenever they can. Whatever.

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:29 pm
by Deleted User 89
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:04 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:59 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 pm

lulz, DC is so dum that he blames Democrats for Trump! What an asshole.

Oh, BTW read this great letter.







From a guy whom we abused for eight years as ChmipyMcBushitler.
why is any of that commentary necessary?

seriously, is it that hard to just say “good for him...that’s the kind of presidential statement our country needs right now”

you get so caught up in trying to keep everyone “grounded” (for lack of a better term)
Was posting the letter necessary?

Seriously, is it that hard to say "Well, maybe I WAS an asshole for eight years.

you get so caught up in trying to keep me "grounded" (for lack of a better term)
how very partisan of you

Re: George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:31 pm
by Deleted User 89
Feral wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:16 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:59 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 pm

lulz, DC is so dum that he blames Democrats for Trump! What an asshole.

Oh, BTW read this great letter.


From a guy whom we abused for eight years as ChmipyMcBushitler.
why is any of that commentary necessary?

seriously, is it that hard to just say “good for him...that’s the kind of presidential statement our country needs right now”

you get so caught up in trying to keep everyone “grounded” (for lack of a better term)
DC is so tribal, zero-sum, scorched earth, he can't bear it when anyone else isn't.
he didn’t used to be

or, maybe i’m just now starting to see reality

either way, his posts are (unfortunately) reading more and more like psych’s