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Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:32 pm
by ousdahl
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Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:33 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:31 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:19 pm her onlyfans ain’t bad either

As my daddy always told me.....when interacting with the authority keep your yap shut. Do as you are told. Speak only when spoken to. And if you must speak it is yes sir, no sir.
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Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:57 pm
by Deleted User 89
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Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:59 pm
by ousdahl

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:25 pm
by ousdahl
star witness for the defense!

can't make this shit up.
Dr. David Fowler, a retired forensic pathologist who was chief medical examiner for the state of Maryland, testified that in his opinion, the manner of Floyd's death should be classified as "undetermined" rather than "homicide."...

In Fowler's determination, "fentanyl and methamphetamine" contributed to Floyd's death. He also said that "there is exposure to vehicle exhaust, so potentially carbon monoxide poisoning or at least an effect from increased carbon monoxide in his bloodstream." ...

During his cross examination, prosecuting attorney Jerry Blackwell sought to shake the jury's faith in Fowler's credibility, asking a series of questions to which the pathologist was forced to admit he did not know the answer or had a flawed recollection of the events on May 25, 2020, leading to Floyd's death.

Blackwell first questioned Fowler about the various studies he relied on for his report in determining Floyd's cause of death. The prosecution noted, none of those Fowler referenced involved a victim who had been held in the prone position with the weight of three grown men on top of him for nearly 9 and half minutes.

Fowler agreed they did not.

Blackwell also challenged Fowler's earlier testimony that the absence of bruising on Floyd's neck and back from Chauvin's knees and body weight, as well as that of the other officers, means that they did not cause the 46-year-old's death.

Fowler conceded that in the majority of asphyxia deaths, autopsies often find no physical evidence of bruising or other traumatic injuries.

"In a substantial number of cases" that is true, he said.

The prosecutor then tackled Fowler's theory that carbon monoxide poisoning may have been a contributing factor in Floyd's death.

"You haven't seen any data, or test results, that showed Mr. Floyd had a single injury from carbon monoxide?" he asked.

"Yes, true," Fowler answered, later adding that he did not review any data that Floyd was exposed to carbon monoxide above the levels set by the Environmental Protection Agency.

Blackwell continued to press Fowler, asking if he has ever seen an SUV of the same make and model as squad car 320 in real life.

The pathologist said he had not.

"Did you see any air monitoring data that would give you any information as to what carbon monoxide, if any, would have been in Mr. Floyd's breathing zone?"

He responded: "No because it was not tested."

But one of the most damaging moments for the defense was when Fowler testified that even after Floyd appeared to have lost consciousness after suffering cardiac arrest — about 4 to 5 minutes into the grueling 9 and a half minute restraint — he might been revived had he received immediate medical attention.

"When there is a space between cardiac arrest and between the actual death, are you suggesting that, though Mr. Floyd may have been in cardiac arrest, there was a time when he may have been revived because he wasn't dead yet?," Blackwell asked.

"Immediate medical attention for a person who's gone into cardiac arrest may well reverse that process," Fowler replied.

"Do you feel that Mr. Floyd should have been given immediate emergency attention to try to reverse the cardiac arrest?"

"As a physician, I would agree," he said.

"Are you critical of the fact that he wasn't given immediate emergency care when he went into cardiac arrest?"

"As a physician, I would agree," Fowler repeated.
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Fowler is one of several parties being sued by the family of Anton Black, a Black 19-year-old who died in police custody in 2018. The Maryland medical examiner's office, which Fowler then led, ruled the death an accident and said there were no signs police did anything wrong, The Baltimore Sun reported.
https://www.npr.org/sections/trial-over ... vins-trial

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:30 am
by NewtonHawk11
Dragged a police officer. Arrested. Not shot. 60 miles from Wright.


Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:46 am
by ousdahl
Hey now, maybe there’s a perfectly good explanation for the fact he wasn’t shot - oh, like, maybe he didn’t have air freshener hanging from his mirror?

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:47 am
by ousdahl
and I’m wondering whether it would have been worth asking the defense witness something like, “if you think carbon monoxide may have contributed, then do you think a cop should have a duty to not detain a person in a position that leaves them vulnerable to carbon monoxide poisoning,” but pretty sure the damage was done either way

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:48 am
by sdoyel

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:48 am
by jhawks99
Not surprising.

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:02 am
by Deleted User 89
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Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:39 pm
by Deleted User 89
heard that Floyd was fond of banana and mayo sandwiches

wtf

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:51 pm
by Overlander
TraditionKU wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:39 pm heard that Floyd was fond of banana and mayo sandwiches

wtf
It's the drugs, man.

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:54 pm
by Deleted User 865
Nah man. Mayo. I'll put mayo on everything. That tangy taste is the best.

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:55 pm
by Overlander
vega wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:54 pm Nah man. Mayo. I'll put mayo on everything. That tangy taste is the best.
In most cases, I would agree.

But dammit man, bananas.

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:57 pm
by Deleted User 865
I hate bananas, so can't say, but you'll put bananas in smoothies. I can see it. I ain't going to yuck a dead man's yum.

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:05 pm
by TDub
Fuckin mayo is among the worst food/condiment/things people eat on the planet

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:06 pm
by Deleted User 865
You're lucky pDubs allows anti-vaxxing and white supremacy takes on this site, because your anti-mayo ass would be alongside Usher if this was .net

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:13 pm
by TDub
Its so gross.

Re: Would you be on the Jury?

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:14 pm
by Deleted User 89
the only thing i can tolerate mayo on is a BLT