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Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:24 pm
by Deleted User 89
Wiff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:14 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:53 pm
Wiff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:51 pm
I don't know. I think it's something like 5-4.
yes, but Cal is the one that’s up
Actually, unless I'm forgetting one, I think it might be tied now at 5-5.
Bill - Calipari running win-loss total
2002 - 0-1 (Illinois v. Memphis)
2008 - 1-1 (KU natty vs. Memphis)
2011 - 1-2 (KU loses to UK at Champions Classic NYC)
2012 - 1-3 (KU loses to UK in natty championship game)
2014 - 1-4 (KU loses to UK at Champions Classic Indy)
2016 - 2-4 (KU wins Big 12/SEC at home)
2017 - 3-4 (KU wins Big 12/SEC at Rupp)
2017 - 4-4 (KU wins Champions Classic Chicago)
2019 - 4-5 (KU loses Big 12/SEC at Rupp)
2020 - 5-5 (KU wins Champions Classic Indy)
that looks right
the article i glanced at was from 2020, but probably before that last win (didn’t look at the exact date)
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:29 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:19 pm
With only 10 career matchups?
Seems their "rivalry" maybe exists more off the court in recruiting battles and on messageboards than it does on the court?
Which one do you think is better?
For active HOF coaches, 10 matchups is quite a bit.
Guessing only one that can eclipse that number is Boeheim/K. Maybe K/Calipari.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:33 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cal/Pitino?
How many times has Self faced Bob Huggins?
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:35 pm
by Deleted User 89
Pitino-Cal
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:36 pm
by Deleted User 863
Yes sorry, that's what i meant.
Got my slimeballs mixed up.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:36 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Huggins not in HOF.
K/Pitino might have a lot. K/Izzo might as well. K retiring soon, and his better rivalries were with Roy and Dean.
Pitino coaches for Iona.
Given the shared background that Self/Cal have, the two programs they lead, the fact they've already have 2 natty matchups, I'm not sure another duo has a good argument, especially with K hanging it up.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:37 pm
by Deleted User 89
if statie is such a big rival, why no love for Self-Weberace?
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:39 pm
by Deleted User 863
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:39 pm
by ChalkRocker
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:51 pm
Right.
If we didn't play Kentucky for 9 years and they came into AFH at 5-4, ( or hell, 9-0 ) there wouldn't be a thread like this.
An
important thread, you mean.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:41 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:37 pm
if statie is such a big rival, why no love for Self-Weberace?
I'd bet money Self hates Weber orders of magnitude more than he hates Cal.
I actually don't even think he and Cal appear to dislike each other tbh.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:43 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Self likes Cal. They make each other better.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:44 pm
by pdub
Huggins still has a shot at the HOF, no?
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:50 pm
by Cascadia
I grew up in a small town in Kansas that was predominantly KSU fans, I went to the University of Kansas and have been a lifelong KU fan.
I don't hate KSU, never have. They're irrelevant.
Hence, no rivalry.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:54 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:50 pm
I grew up in a small town in Kansas that was predominantly KSU fans, I went to the University of Kansas and have been a lifelong KU fan.
I don't hate KSU, never have. They're irrelevant.
Hence, no rivalry.
I think you're probably in the minority about viewing them as a rival.
I think you do hit on a good point though, there is a hate with Mizzou that is not there with KState. Or at the very least is a very different kind of hate. My dad even references this when discussing the differences between the 2 rivalries.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:01 pm
by Wiff
I also don't hate K-State at all. Actually feel kind of sorry for them.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:04 pm
by Deleted User 863
Wiff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:01 pm
I also don't hate K-State at all. Actually feel kind of sorry for them.
Consider them one of our rivals?
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:05 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Cascadia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:50 pm
I grew up in a small town in Kansas that was predominantly KSU fans, I went to the University of Kansas and have been a lifelong KU fan.
Same. Any care about KSU pretty much died off when moving to KC. Especially on the east side of the state line, you just don't hear about them.
It seems offices have 1 KSU guy. The rest are heavy KU/MU.
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:06 pm
by jhawks99
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:04 pm
Wiff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:01 pm
I also don't hate K-State at all. Actually feel kind of sorry for them.
Consider them one of our rivals?
170 - 88
Pretty pathetic rival
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:07 pm
by Deleted User 89
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:06 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:04 pm
Wiff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:01 pm
I also don't hate K-State at all. Actually feel kind of sorry for them.
Consider them one of our rivals?
170 - 88
Pretty pathetic rival
it’s actually a worse disparity than that
Re: Muck Fizzou 2021
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:08 pm
by Deleted User 863
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:06 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:04 pm
Wiff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:01 pm
I also don't hate K-State at all. Actually feel kind of sorry for them.
Consider them one of our rivals?
170 - 88
Pretty pathetic rival
Like PDub mentioned earlier, the fact we dominate them doesn't make them any less of a rival.
