Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:33 am "Maybe slightly overpaid"

Lol.
Understatement right here.
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles ... 3#slide_17

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:35 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:30 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:18 am

100% agree on the RB point.

But we disagree on other. It's all about how you build the roster and the specific units. Again, this isn't Madden, so you can't structure contracts and force trades to end up with Adams, Chase, Hill, Cupp, Samuel and Jefferson as your WR unit, which is what the fanboi's want. (not accusing you of being a fanboi)

Again, loved Hill, sucks he's gone but you can rebuild the WR unit to be just as good as last years. Will KC actually accomplish that? We'll see, but it's definitely doable.

I don't think you can replace the talent of Adams, Chase, Hill, Kupp, Samuel, Jefferson on the field, so I was deliberate with the term "impact on the field." You can go out and (possibly) replace the overall production, but big game when you need that big play/burner, etc., only the top end guys can give you that, and they change the entire gameplan for both units on the field. That's why I do think losing Hill makes the Chiefs offense less dangerous in the short term.

Eh, fair enough. Still disagree. You make teams change gameplans in a variety of ways. Have an Elite WR is just one of them

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:45 am Not worth it.


We get it. You're better than the rest of us.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:58 am
I don't think you can game plan for a 34 step drop from Mahomes and launching a 70 yard pass over the safeties to the fastest receiver in the game. There's no defense for that, as we have seen.

It's a lot more situational, but I think the last two SB winners have shown, in a game scenario, you just can't defend a horde of top end talent. Rules change all the time of course, so it's fluid.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:04 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:58 am
I don't think you can game plan for a 34 step drop from Mahomes and launching a 70 yard pass over the safeties to the fastest receiver in the game. There's no defense for that, as we have seen.

It's a lot more situational, but I think the last two SB winners have shown, in a game scenario, you just can't defend a horde of top end talent. Rules change all the time of course, so it's fluid.

But that's just it. That's Mahomes, not Hill. There are other guys out there who can run 4.3

I'm not saying Hill is a special talent, he definitely is. For my money he's the best WR in football. I just can't see how you justify that kind of money for that position when you can build an entire very good, maybe top end if your smart, WR unit for that amount of money.

hasbeen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:16 pm If Hill isn't the best WR in the league, he's second. He's that good and fundamentally changes how defenses play in a way no other receiver does. That said, the offense will be different but could be just as efficient. Gotta get some help at receiver, though. Mahomes will have to learn to play a way he hasn't so far in his career. All can be done.

The bigger issue is the terrible, terrible defense with multiple holes.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:24 pm I think Davante Adams, Jamar Chase, Steph Diggs and maybe Justin Jefferson are better.