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Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:08 pm
by twocoach
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:20 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:15 am
hoopla wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:26 am

haters gonna hate
It's not a hate thing.


You think K helped his legacy his last 1-3ish years? Maybe more. He got weird. Angry. Out of touch.


This is a young mans game. Self is already a top 10 college coach of all time. He deserves to ride off into the sunset whenever he is ready....but hey, if it's 75, and passing K is something he wants to do, he'll be doing it at KU. And that'll be awesome.


I just don't think that specific record means as much to him as the team accolades and his players accolades/future successes. It rarely feels like "it's about him" if you know what I mean.
Top 5
Who's your Top 5? Coach K, Roy WIlliams, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp and Bill Self maybe?

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:10 pm
by KUTradition
twocoach wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:08 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:20 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:15 am

It's not a hate thing.


You think K helped his legacy his last 1-3ish years? Maybe more. He got weird. Angry. Out of touch.


This is a young mans game. Self is already a top 10 college coach of all time. He deserves to ride off into the sunset whenever he is ready....but hey, if it's 75, and passing K is something he wants to do, he'll be doing it at KU. And that'll be awesome.


I just don't think that specific record means as much to him as the team accolades and his players accolades/future successes. It rarely feels like "it's about him" if you know what I mean.
Top 5
Who's your Top 5? Coach K, Roy WIlliams, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp and Bill Self maybe?
how do you mention Dean, Roy, and Rupp, but not Phog?

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:15 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Top 6

1. Wooden
2. K
3. Roy
4. Rupp
5. Bill
6. Knight

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:15 pm
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:10 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:08 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:20 am

Top 5
Who's your Top 5? Coach K, Roy WIlliams, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp and Bill Self maybe?
how do you mention Dean, Roy, and Rupp, but not Phog?
Because I put about 4 seconds of thought into it mostly.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:16 pm
by KUTradition
lol

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:19 pm
by KUTradition
this argument is likely to go the way of the MJ/bron/Wilt one…or the greatest Jayhawk one

comparing different accolades across different eras makes it an almost impossible task

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:27 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Self is top 5 based on pure domination over the last 20 years. The conference championships, the winning percentage, 2 championships over 14 years and having guys with decent NBA draft and success.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:33 pm
by KUTradition
an internet search for just such a list returns some, uh, interesting results

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:56 pm
by NewtonHawk11
I don't even want to check. They'll have Jay Wright and Boeheim and Calhoun probably pretty high.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:09 pm
by KUTradition
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:56 pm I don't even want to check. They'll have Jay Wright and Boeheim and Calhoun probably pretty high.
lol

spot on

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:11 pm
by ramjet
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:56 pm I don't even want to check. They'll have Jay Wright and Boeheim and Calhoun probably pretty high.
and Lute Olsen - met with him in my kitchen as he recruited my kid

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:16 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Lute is fine. Top 20 coach. 1 title though ain't it.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:22 pm
by ramjet
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:16 pm Lute is fine. Top 20 coach. 1 title though ain't it.
agree, although he did show up #8 on Bleacher Report listing. Nice guy, no bullshit recruiting style.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:27 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
ramjet wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:22 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:16 pm Lute is fine. Top 20 coach. 1 title though ain't it.
agree, although he did show up #8 on Bleacher Report listing. Nice guy, no bullshit recruiting style.
As a Kansas fan I say - Fuck Lute Olson!

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:46 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:06 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:15 am
hoopla wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:26 am

haters gonna hate
It's not a hate thing.


You think K helped his legacy his last 1-3ish years? Maybe more. He got weird. Angry. Out of touch.


This is a young mans game. Self is already a top 10 college coach of all time. He deserves to ride off into the sunset whenever he is ready....but hey, if it's 75, and passing K is something he wants to do, he'll be doing it at KU. And that'll be awesome.


I just don't think that specific record means as much to him as the team accolades and his players accolades/future successes. It rarely feels like "it's about him" if you know what I mean.
I don't think he would stick around JUST to pass Coach K. Just saying that if he coached that long, he would break the record. Self is averaging more than 27 wins a season at KU, over 28 wins a season the last 10 years and over 29 wins a season the last 7 years so he seems to be getting better and more consistent as he goes. Sure, 75 is a stupid long time to coach and I thoroughly doubt that Self will coach that long. But he on Coach K's pace is all, with no signs of slowing down whatsoever.
You don't have to convince me. I am with you.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:16 pm
by ramjet
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:27 pm
ramjet wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:22 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:16 pm Lute is fine. Top 20 coach. 1 title though ain't it.
agree, although he did show up #8 on Bleacher Report listing. Nice guy, no bullshit recruiting style.
As a Kansas fan I say - Fuck Lute Olson!
... break up with her

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:46 pm
by jhawks99
WTF is wrong with you guys?

Phog
Bill
Larry
Roy
Harp

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:52 pm
by PhDhawk
jhawks99 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:46 pm WTF is wrong with you guys?

Phog
Bill
Larry
Roy
Harp
This guy gets it.

And in last place......Scott Drew.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:55 am
by ousdahl
boy, last place sure does suck.

Re: Damn It Feels Good to be a Jayhawk

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:22 pm
by jhawks99
Bumping, cuz it does.