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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:53 am
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:38 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:23 am Ban is not the right word. And it’s more accurate to state that the reason for suspending the A-Z vax for now is because of fear and not because it’s causing any adverse reactions. There has also not been a casual link found between the A-Z vax and clotting issues.

There have, however, been several studies linking clotting issues with COVID-19.
There has been a link established
I'd be curious to know by who. Have not seen anyone come out and say there is a causal link. Temporarily suspension to look into it is something different.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:53 am
by zsn
TDub wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:38 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:23 am Ban is not the right word. And it’s more accurate to state that the reason for suspending the A-Z vax for now is because of fear and not because it’s causing any adverse reactions. There has also not been a casual link found between the A-Z vax and clotting issues.

There have, however, been several studies linking clotting issues with COVID-19.
There has been a link established
CnB beat me to the response. The link is not between the vaccine and thrombosis. The link is between clotting and the infection itself. A lot of the suspensions (that’s the correct term, not ban) are due to short supply although perceived adverse events are a convenience.

Also see PhD’s link

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:58 am
by Cascadia
You guys really need to stop with all these facts.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:58 am
by PhDhawk
From today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... pdates-us/
An expert panel is investigating the potential link between vaccinations and a small number of extremely rare brain clots, and it is slated to release its conclusions Thursday, Emer Cooke, the agency’s executive director, said at a news conference. There was “no indication” that the vaccine caused the adverse events, which seemed not to be higher in vaccinated people than in the general population, Cooke said.

“But this is a serious concern,” she added, “and it does need serious, detailed scientific evaluation.”

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:59 am
by MICHHAWK
If I was half my age I would not even consider it.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:35 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:59 am If I was half my age I would not even consider it.
Weapons-grade dumb.

One, even for relatively young and healthy people, the risks associated with Covid (even just missing work for a week or two) far outweigh the risks of the vaccine.

Two - and I know this is a hard one for you - young, healthy people that get Covid are highly-efficient spreaders to others.

None of this has ever been about you, or any one of us.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:48 am
by Deleted User 89
vega wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:13 am
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:35 am none in the US
That's not true. We have tens of millions of doses that we are just sitting on. We should sell them or give them to under-developed countries.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/us/p ... tates.html
well that’s quite interesting

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:10 pm
by jhawks99
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:59 am If I was half my age I would not even consider it.
My 27 year old hockey playing son in law spent a week in the hospital with the fungus.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:12 pm
by PhDhawk
jfish26 wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:35 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:59 am If I was half my age I would not even consider it.
Weapons-grade dumb.

One, even for relatively young and healthy people, the risks associated with Covid (even just missing work for a week or two) far outweigh the risks of the vaccine.

Two - and I know this is a hard one for you - young, healthy people that get Covid are highly-efficient spreaders to others.

None of this has ever been about you, or any one of us.
3. Lots of healthy people who never had symptoms are later finding that they have lung damage, glassy-like spots on an x-ray, and reduced lung capacity.

Anecdotal, but several of my students 19-22 year olds lost taste and smell. Another girl, who was a former multi-time state champion in track, was hit very hard was down several weeks, and had to go to a pulmonary specialist.

I now know more students who've received the vaccine than had the virus, and none have had complications. I had several who had fairly severe, and to me, scary complications from covid.

The math tells you pretty unequivocally that the right move...even from a purely selfish Mich-y kinda standpoint, that the right move is to get vaccinated....and it's not even close.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:25 pm
by PhDhawk
https://www.businessinsider.com/faceboo ... ?r=US&IR=T

I guess lobster got caught by facebook.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:46 pm
by PhDhawk
Vaccinations seem to ease symptoms for some long-haul COVID-19 patients

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/0 ... -patients/

Not peer reviewed yet, but interesting.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:48 pm
by PhDhawk
Coronavirus: EU medical regulator says AstraZeneca COVID vaccine does not cause blood clots

https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-eu-medi ... a-56887985

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm
by sdoyel

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:27 pm
by TDub
Thats in seaside oregon. Or the first such sign was/is

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:59 pm
by pdub
Mom just got her vaccine shot at the 4H fairgrounds.
"Was nothing, no big deal."

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:17 pm
by Walrus
Glad she survived. She's lucky.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:47 pm
by PhDhawk
Yeah every day is a blessing. Don't take it for granted. Thankfully we have vaccines to protect us and prolong our lives. Good thing the covid vaccines are so safe. Smart decision.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:50 pm
by PhDhawk
Some of the science explaining why lobster is wrong about vaccines not protecting against mutant strains of coronavirus.

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus ... ies-156810

Full disclosure, this was based off the work of academics who provide nothing worthwhile and whose work was published in a journal article, which no one reads.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:05 am
by jhawks99
Mine is scheduled for this afternoon. If I don't come back, tell my wife that I loved her.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:43 am
by Deleted User 89
lobs is just trolling now

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