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MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:37 pm how does one differentiate between bill gates and elon musk.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:37 pm how does one differentiate between bill gates and elon musk.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:44 am https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... tions/amp/

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:52 pm Let's talk about what "normalizing" means.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/12/asia/kim ... index.html

Trump - ever infatuated with "strong man" leaders - cozied up to Kim Jong Un (and to Putin, also a "strong man" leader).

Now Kim Jong Un is going to supply Putin with offensive weapons to be used against Ukrainian citizens, in
a war of unilateral aggression, in exchange for weapons technology that the US and some of its closest allies (Japan and Korea) have a direct and immediate interest in keeping out of Kim's hands.

But because Trump cozied up to Kim and Putin, and because Trump adopts (and others, including Elon, adopt) Putin's talking points on Ukraine, pubs' tongues will be tied on this obviously-bad situation.

This is what "normalizing" really means. It means hand-waving away a clear error in judgment, and then having to sit idly by when that clear error in judgment has consequences.

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:27 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:52 pm Let's talk about what "normalizing" means.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/12/asia/kim ... index.html

Trump - ever infatuated with "strong man" leaders - cozied up to Kim Jong Un (and to Putin, also a "strong man" leader).

Now Kim Jong Un is going to supply Putin with offensive weapons to be used against Ukrainian citizens, in
a war of unilateral aggression, in exchange for weapons technology that the US and some of its closest allies (Japan and Korea) have a direct and immediate interest in keeping out of Kim's hands.

But because Trump cozied up to Kim and Putin, and because Trump adopts (and others, including Elon, adopt) Putin's talking points on Ukraine, pubs' tongues will be tied on this obviously-bad situation.

This is what "normalizing" really means. It means hand-waving away a clear error in judgment, and then having to sit idly by when that clear error in judgment has consequences.

^^^

It's exactly like FAFO,

only different.

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:33 pm

Responding to reports in recent weeks that Ukrainian forces were gaining momentum and recapturing territory, the official remarked, “Where are the reporters getting this stuff?” he asked. “There are stories talking about drunk Russian commanders while the Ukrainians are penetrating the three lines of Russian defense and will be able to work back to Mariupol.”

He continued, “The goal of Russia’s first line of defense was not to stop the Ukrainian offense, but to slow it down so if there was a Ukrainian advance, Russian commanders could bring in reserves to fortify the line.” The official added, “There is no evidence that Ukrainian forces have gotten past the first line. The American press is doing anything but honest reporting on the failure thus far of the offense.”

Secretary of State Antony Blinken delivered a similarly optimistic message during his trip to Kyiv on Wednesday. “In the ongoing counteroffensive, progress has accelerated in the past few weeks. This new assistance will help sustain it and build further momentum,” he said at a press conference.

The official says that message is being delivered from military intelligence to the White House, while the CIA has drawn other conclusions. “This kind of reporting from the military intelligence community is going to the White House. There are other views,” he said, referring to the CIA. The official explained those views do not reach President Joe Biden.

For over three months, Kyiv has ordered its forces to advance on entrench Russian defensive lines in southern Ukraine. Russian minefields caused Ukraine to lose a significant portion of its Western-trained soldiers and equipment in the opening weeks of the offensive. The massive push by Ukraine resulted in nearly no territorial gains.

Still, Washington has pushed Kyiv to continue the counteroffensive. The White House acknowledges that for Ukraine to have a possibility of success, Kyiv will have to be willing to sustain high casualties.

The official told Hersh no matter how committed Kyiv is to the war effort, President Zelensky’s goals are unattainable. “Zelensky will never get his land back,” he said.

The official also spoke about the assassination of Prigozhin last month. He believes that Putin ordered the killing because the mercenary boss had begun to provoke NATO members. “By early August, there were reports of border tensions as the remnant of the Wagner Group made a series of intrusions into the airspace of Poland, and troublesome threats at the borders of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland,” Hersh writes, “For Putin, triggering complaints from NATO countries was an unforgivable breach. ‘That was it,’ a knowledgeable US intelligence official told me.”

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:16 pm Yea.

I’ll prob get shit for this, but I’m trying to understand Iran’s motivations, I kinda wondered if their narrative would be something like, “we’re trying to regain control of oil illegally taken by the US/NATO/“the west” from us/our middle eastern allies”

But that also presupposes the US militancy against and occupation of middle eastern countries is about anything but freedom and democracy.