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randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:32 am Guns have been in this country for centuries. But shootings have spiked in the past few decades, as this country's mental health has deteriorated

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:43 am Also. Here's some data you can do what you want with. You guys are always talking about how America is an outlier when it comes to gun deaths, and many have suggested its a cultural thing on why it is so high. I already know what I'm going to be labeled, but im not even giving an opinion here, just showing some statistic we all know is true

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:55 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:43 am Also. Here's some data you can do what you want with. You guys are always talking about how America is an outlier when it comes to gun deaths, and many have suggested its a cultural thing on why it is so high. I already know what I'm going to be labeled, but im not even giving an opinion here, just showing some statistic we all know is true

Which brings us back to the guy you feel would be a good President.....
"Just like we did to Black people".

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:54 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:32 am Guns have been in this country for centuries. But shootings have spiked in the past few decades, as this country's mental health has deteriorated

What I'd imagine is not good for the country's mental health, is for there to now be multiple generations of adults for whom gun violence is so endemic that they've never known a world without active shooter drills at school.

This is a risk of our own choosing. We do this to ourselves. And the fundamental cause of this policy failure is the vulnerability of rubes to taking up the gun lobby's bad-faith talking points.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:19 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:33 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:26 am

Take a closer look at the demographic responsible for the big chunk of recent shootings

It is 100% comprised of people with guns?

You blame "rubes" but the bigger percentage of shooters dont vote republican

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:54 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:32 am Guns have been in this country for centuries. But shootings have spiked in the past few decades, as this country's mental health has deteriorated

What I'd imagine is not good for the country's mental health, is for there to now be multiple generations of adults for whom gun violence is so endemic that they've never known a world without active shooter drills at school.

This is a risk of our own choosing. We do this to ourselves. And the fundamental cause of this policy failure is the vulnerability of rubes to taking up the gun lobby's bad-faith talking points.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:51 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:31 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:28 am

The one, single thing all shooters have in common is the gun.

The one, single thing all shootings have in common is the gun.

“If you ban some guns, the rate of murder-by-whoopie-cushion would go up by 4,000%” is not a meaningful response.

If you ban guns the rate of murder won't go down. The rate of gun murder probably won't even go down. It'll just make things harder for law abiding citizens

There's simply NO evidence supporting this.

And there is LOTS of evidence - in addition to basic common sense - supporting the notion that stricter gun laws result in fewer gun deaths.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:11 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:54 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:32 am Guns have been in this country for centuries. But shootings have spiked in the past few decades, as this country's mental health has deteriorated

What I'd imagine is not good for the country's mental health, is for there to now be multiple generations of adults for whom gun violence is so endemic that they've never known a world without active shooter drills at school.

This is a risk of our own choosing. We do this to ourselves. And the fundamental cause of this policy failure is the vulnerability of rubes to taking up the gun lobby's bad-faith talking points.

Don't be naive. There hasn't been a generation of adults that didn't know gun violence since the invention of the gun. And before that people were murdering eachother with swords and axes

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:23 am Its an inconvenient truth nobody wants to talk about. But the bulk of gun violence isn't done by ar15s and isn't some progun maga American

The bulk of gun violence comes from left leaning big cities

But the media will talk about one shooting in a white school that kills 4 people and ignore 60 people being murdered in a weekend in Chicago

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:23 am Its an inconvenient truth nobody wants to talk about. But the bulk of gun violence isn't done by ar15s and isn't some progun maga American

The bulk of gun violence comes from left leaning big cities

But the media will talk about one shooting in a white school that kills 4 people and ignore 60 people being murdered in a weekend in Chicago

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:31 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:28 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:19 am

You blame "rubes" but the bigger percentage of shooters dont vote republican

The one, single thing all shooters have in common is the gun.

The one, single thing all shootings have in common is the gun.

“If you ban some guns, the rate of murder-by-whoopie-cushion would go up by 4,000%” is not a meaningful response.

If you ban guns the rate of murder won't go down. The rate of gun murder probably won't even go down. It'll just make things harder for law abiding citizens

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:03 pm Boneless Whings: the spineless kind who keep pushing gun lobby talking points.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:21 pm the freedom to play G.I. Joe, basically, outweighs the freedom to live, go to school, go to the store, etc. without fear of being murdered

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:44 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:21 pm the freedom to play G.I. Joe, basically, outweighs the freedom to live, go to school, go to the store, etc. without fear of being murdered

And again - just so we're being 100% clear - no serious person is seeking a comprehensive ban on guns.

We just keep getting told, over and over again, some combination of: (1) the Second Amendment guarantees a present-day right to buy, own and use assault rifles, (2) there would not actually be any utility to "contracting" otherwise (by our elected representatives codifying restrictions on the buying, owning and using of assault rifles).