Re: 2020 offseason thread
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:50 am
I do think that CnB's point is valid in that, of all the B12 teams, we stand to benefit from a 'redshirt' season.
I think there's enough money to make/lose that the season will power through a la baseball. I wonder if they expand rosters or postpone games (I haven't been following NFL plans for the season).
I tend to think the NFL is the one thing that is too big to cancel.
WAAAAAAY too big. The NFL is going to be played. I'd put odd at 75/25 played at least half the season.jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:52 amI tend to think the NFL is the one thing that is too big to cancel.
I'm not sure it's necessary - I don't think it particularly matters if the season finishes on time. I think you can tolerate a few two-week league-wide hiatuses without issue. The stadiums aren't really used for anything else.
Not worth the time to sweat the details as fans. Everything's going to change, probably multiple times.
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Don't think for a second that the NFL isn't lustily looking toward all those Saturdays now opening up.
That was the first thing I thought. I would watch 26 hours a week if they did all day Saturday games too. They can basically do what they want now since they don't need to worry about ticketholders. Fox CBS, NBC and ABC would be dumb not to clear out their Saturday programming and stagger those games better. It's be a travesty too that NFL only has two timeslots on Sundays for games. It should be staggered more anyway so there is overlap, that way the noon slot doesn't have 10 games on at the same time with six coming down to the wire. Maybe a Saturday overtake will push them to better stagger those games.jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:02 pmDon't think for a second that the NFL isn't lustily looking toward all those Saturdays now opening up.
Televise 3 NFL time slots on Saturday and 3 more on Sunday with one Monday Night game. Get rid of the awful Thursday Night game.NiceDC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:06 pmThat was the first thing I thought. I would watch 26 hours a week if they did all day Saturday games too. They can basically do what they want now since they don't need to worry about ticketholders. Fox CBS, NBC and ABC would be dumb not to clear out their Saturday programming and stagger those games better. It's be a travesty too that NFL only has two timeslots on Sundays for games. It should be staggered more anyway so there is overlap, that way the noon slot doesn't have 10 games on at the same time with six coming down to the wire. Maybe a Saturday overtake will push them to better stagger those games.
I saw in Trevor Lawrence's statement that playing is better protection for players than going home. I would not be surprised if that's true.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 pm Kinda hard to claim that ncaa football players are just student athletes if you build a ton of protocols to keep them safe that you do not do for the rest of your on-campus students. The ncaa and schools lose less money cancelling the season than they do treating players as employees and having to pay them moving forward.
I saw a cynical take that Big Ten and Pac-12 canceled the season to prevent the unionization of the players.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 pm Kinda hard to claim that ncaa football players are just student athletes if you build a ton of protocols to keep them safe that you do not do for the rest of your on-campus students. The ncaa and schools lose less money cancelling the season than they do treating players as employees and having to pay them moving forward.
I do think it's exceedingly risky for those conferences (any conferences) to move before the rest. If the ACC and SEC play...those other rosters are getting raided.NiceDC wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:30 pmI saw a cynical take that Big Ten and Pac-12 canceled the season to prevent the unionization of the players.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 pm Kinda hard to claim that ncaa football players are just student athletes if you build a ton of protocols to keep them safe that you do not do for the rest of your on-campus students. The ncaa and schools lose less money cancelling the season than they do treating players as employees and having to pay them moving forward.
That's true IF they do regular testing and separate them from the student body and quarantine them if they test positive. I doubt many question that.jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:27 pmI saw in Trevor Lawrence's statement that playing is better protection for players than going home. I would not be surprised if that's true.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 pm Kinda hard to claim that ncaa football players are just student athletes if you build a ton of protocols to keep them safe that you do not do for the rest of your on-campus students. The ncaa and schools lose less money cancelling the season than they do treating players as employees and having to pay them moving forward.
The problem is that, even in a fanless season, a college football game is, what, 500 people or so per? Traveling around? In college towns?
Not that this argument holds up much better for pro sports, but: god damn, it's irresponsible to test the way we need to test for sports, when we can't test at a reasonable degree across everyone.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:38 pmThat's true IF they do regular testing and separate them from the student body and quarantine them if they test positive. I doubt many question that.jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:27 pmI saw in Trevor Lawrence's statement that playing is better protection for players than going home. I would not be surprised if that's true.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:24 pm Kinda hard to claim that ncaa football players are just student athletes if you build a ton of protocols to keep them safe that you do not do for the rest of your on-campus students. The ncaa and schools lose less money cancelling the season than they do treating players as employees and having to pay them moving forward.
The problem is that, even in a fanless season, a college football game is, what, 500 people or so per? Traveling around? In college towns?
But how do you turn around and argue that the athletes are just regular students if you are giving them all of these extra things you arent doing for the general student body?
The ncaa's desperate grasp of their antiquated arguments for not paying athletes painted them into this corner.