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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:43 pm
by TDub
TDub wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:41 pm
I did see somewhere that its showing up in seminal fluid. Thats an odd thing for a respiratory virus isnt it?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:43 pm
by TDub
Dont worry about the confusion. Just working on my post count.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:51 pm
by Deleted User 89
a coworker forwarded it to me
seems “another” conspiracy theory
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 10:34 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
seahawk wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 4:44 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:44 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:12 pm
Yes, doing things in parallel will be wasteful for a vaccine that doesn't work, but the benefit for a vaccine that works will, by a long-shot, outweigh the cost. (In this case) It's a pretty smart gamble.
Maybe this is a good opportunity for us to emphasize basic science education. Comparisons to the Apollo program are apt - much the same way many went into the physical sciences/engineering in the 60s a true resurgence of folks entering chemical/life sciences would be welcome and necessary to kick this virus.
A distant cousin of my husband, who was an engineer and in the oil business for awhile and then taught in high school at the end of his career talked about the lack of interest by American kids in the sciences and I've thought of the same thing, zsn, remembering the Sputnik area and how kids were encouraged toward careers in the physical sciences, partly because of the excitement around all the space programs.
1st Line of the post = signature Seahawk
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 11:54 pm
by ousdahl
just the 1st line tho
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 10:36 am
by Shirley
"...This is why the whole concept of tests isn't necessarily great..."
And, calendars. What about calendars? One day you're 36, and the next day you're 37!
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:08 pm
by Shirley
This is hardly the first time China has screwed the world:
...For over a decade, epidemiological data and samples have been used as trade war pawns.
China hid the 2002 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, for four months and then kept the findings of its research private. Some provinces withheld information about cases even from the central government in Beijing.
In 2005, Chinese authorities insisted an H5N1 influenza outbreak was contained, contradicting University of Hong Kong scientists who offered evidence that it was expanding. Those authorities hesitated to share viral samples from infected wild birds with the international community, concealing the scope to avoid a hit to their vast poultry industry.
Indonesia followed suit, refusing in 2007 to share specimens of H5N1 with the United States and United Kingdom, arguing that the countries would use the samples to develop a vaccine that Indonesians could not afford.
Those episodes led to the 2011 development of the W.H.O.’s Pandemic Influenza Preparedness Framework, which aims to promote sample exchanges as well as developing countries’ access to vaccines.
But for countries like China, bearing the burden of a novel virus is paradoxical. Outbreaks are expensive — the wave of H7N9 infections in 2013 alone cost China more than $6 billion, according to the United Nations — but they can provide a head-start in developing valuable treatments.
“In a sense, China has made lemonade from lemons — converting the problem of global infectious disease threats into lifesaving and valuable commodities,” Dr. Callahan said.
[...]
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 6:39 pm
by Shirley
I would be so pissed:
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:40 pm
by sdoyel
When you don’t wear masks...
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:59 pm
by Geezer
Somebody on Ivanka's staff but no contact for weeks, barely knew her, maybe got coffee once or twice.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 9:40 pm
by seahawk
A good article on risks, places with higher risk, exposure time, etc.
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-ri ... Ss-Hn8S4JQ
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:08 am
by Shirley
sorrynotsorry
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 7:08 am
by seahawk
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:34 pm
seahawk wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 4:44 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:44 pm
Maybe this is a good opportunity for us to emphasize basic science education. Comparisons to the Apollo program are apt - much the same way many went into the physical sciences/engineering in the 60s a true resurgence of folks entering chemical/life sciences would be welcome and necessary to kick this virus.
A distant cousin of my husband, who was an engineer and in the oil business for awhile and then taught in high school at the end of his career talked about the lack of interest by American kids in the sciences and I've thought of the same thing, zsn, remembering the Sputnik area and how kids were encouraged toward careers in the physical sciences, partly because of the excitement around all the space programs.
1st Line of the post = signature Seahawk
I would wish for all of y'all a woman in your life who thinks you're the most special man on the planet.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:02 am
by Deleted User 289
Feral wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 7:08 am
sorrynotsorry
When I watched the video of him I did my typical eye roll and head shake.
Forgetting the fact that he's an absolute fucking moron who has difficulty understanding the concept of testing and how people can be asymptomatic.....
The classic Trump was when he called her "a wonderful person" and yet had no clue who the fuck she is. IT'S THE VICE PRESIDENT'S PRESS SECRETARY - who happens to be married to one of Trump's ADVISORS.
"It's...... I believe the press person - right"? The "press person" QUESTION MARK.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:46 pm
by Geezer
Donnie won't let Pence self quarantine because it would look bad.
Chief of Naval Operations will self quarantine.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:16 pm
by Shirley
First briefing in a while this afternoon at 4:00 ET, unless the time has been changed. I'm looking forward to it, because like all of you, I think Trump is growing into his office, and ready to assume his rightful place as our nation's protector and leader. A leader we can all feel confident in and enthusiastically get behind. That being the case, we should notice a different, more sciencey, evidenced-based, dare I say, "reality"-based, tone. With a clear plan for what we need to do now, and how to begin moving forward into a future filled with optimism.
BTW, WTF are all these democrats doing there?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:59 am
by ousdahl
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/12/85314209 ... te-hearing
WATCH LIVE: Fauci To Warn Of 'Danger' If Country Opens Too Quickly In Senate Hearing
A key hearing on the coronavirus is taking place on Capitol Hill, and Dr. Anthony Fauci says his main message to lawmakers will be "the danger of trying to open the country prematurely."
The Senate hearing is called "COVID-19: Safely Getting Back to Work and Back to School." The irony, though, is that it is largely taking place via video conference...
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:35 am
by MICHHAWK
We don’t know what the virus is going to do. We don’t know what it is going to do today, tomorrow, a month from now, 6 months from now. We don’t know. It is all pure speculation.
But the elite won’t tell us that because “we don’t know” doesn’t fit the hysterical narrative.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:40 am
by PhDhawk
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:35 am
We don’t know what the virus is going to do. We don’t know what it is going to do today, tomorrow, a month from now, 6 months from now. We don’t know. It is all pure speculation.
But the elite won’t tell us that because “we don’t know” doesn’t fit the hysterical narrative.
Fauci knows more about infectious diseases than just about anyone. You should defer to him.
Bill Self doesn't know the outcome of a game either, but I trust his judgment more than, say, the random guy in michigan motivated by hus desire to golf.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 11:53 am
by jfish26
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:40 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 11:35 am
We don’t know what the virus is going to do. We don’t know what it is going to do today, tomorrow, a month from now, 6 months from now. We don’t know. It is all pure speculation.
But the elite won’t tell us that because “we don’t know” doesn’t fit the hysterical narrative.
Fauci knows more about infectious diseases than just about anyone. You should defer to him.
Bill Self doesn't know the outcome of a game either, but I trust his judgment more than, say, the random guy in michigan motivated by hus desire to golf.
There's quite a gulf between admitting that no one knows anything with absolute certainty, to concluding that we shouldn't rely on people that are in the best position to forecast.