Page 175 of 261
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:22 am
by Sparko
Randy's stats are of course contrived. Remember, the housing bubble was completely on republicans and Trump. Because Mango would not let the fed operate, they didn't raise interest rates until way too late and post Biden's inauguration. Yay. Biden got the economy and COVID under control and they thanked him by pushing interest rates up quickly. Consumer confidence is high. Literally anything Randy quotes is bullshit designed to depress voter turnout.
And Gutter: don't feed Putin's troll.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:06 am
by TDub
Anybody that thinks the housing market is to be directly blamed on a single administration is nothing but a team sports political fan. The housing market has been impacted by decisions made by multiple administrations over the last 20 years.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:51 am
by jfish26
TDub wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:06 am
Anybody that thinks the housing market is to be directly blamed on a single administration is nothing but a team sports political fan. The housing market has been impacted by decisions made by multiple administrations over the last 20 years.
And, it’s a market that takes longer to change directions than makes sense to blame it on any particular administration or party/group.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:26 pm
by TDub
jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:51 am
TDub wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:06 am
Anybody that thinks the housing market is to be directly blamed on a single administration is nothing but a team sports political fan. The housing market has been impacted by decisions made by multiple administrations over the last 20 years.
And, it’s a market that takes longer to change directions than makes sense to blame it on any particular administration or party/group.
it's like steering a barge, not a cigar boat. You can bump it with tugs to alter its course but you aren't running barrels with it.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:06 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:41 am
by Shirley
Heard on the Prof G podcast this morning:
Scott Galloway: I would argue that Time's Person of the Year should have been Fed President Jerome Powell. I think he is, I mean, Jesus Christ, what do Americans want from the economy? It's the fastest, largest economy in the world with the lowest inflation. I mean, how do you even do that? That makes no sense to me economically.
Ed Olson: I was looking back at some of the headlines from a year ago:
Bloomberg: "US recession this year more likely than not.
Forecast for US recession within year reaches 100%."
Scott: 100%, every economist they surveyed predicted a recession.
Ed: Yet, here we are today with the Dow Jones Industrial average up 12%
S&P 500 up 23%
Nasdaq up 42%
Unemployment rate 3.9%
And inflation is down to 3.1%...
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:06 am
by jfish26
Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:41 am
Heard on the Prof G podcast this morning:
Scott Galloway: I would argue that Time's Person of the Year should have been Fed President Jerome Powell. I think he is, I mean, Jesus Christ, what do Americans want from the economy? It's the fastest, largest economy in the world with the lowest inflation. I mean, how do you even do that? That makes no sense to me economically.
Ed Olson: I was looking back at some of the headlines from a year ago:
Bloomberg: "US recession this year more likely than not.
Forecast for US recession within year reaches 100%."
Scott: 100%, every economist they surveyed predicted a recession.
Ed: Yet, here we are today with the Dow Jones Industrial average up 12%
S&P 500 up 23%
Nasdaq up 42%
Unemployment rate 3.9%
And inflation is down to 3.1%...
Election interference. All of it. The economy is terrible, inflation is skyrocketing, everyone knows this. You just need to look around.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:29 am
by Shirley
Uh oh, Consumer confidence numbers are improved from last month, and higher than estimated/expected.
Thanks, President Biden!
LiveSquawk
@LiveSquawk
US Conf Board Consumer Confidence:
Dec: 110.7 (est 104.5; prevR 101.0) Dec:
- Conf Board Present Situation Dec: 148.5 (prev 138.2)
- Conf Board Expectations Dec: 85.6 (prev 77.8)
10:01 AM · Dec 20, 2023
allie Cox
@callieabost
Consumer confidence rose to a 5-year high.
BUT what caught my eye was how much Americans' perspective of the economy's present state jumped this month.
Up 12 pts, the biggest monthly jump since May 2021.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
by randylahey
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:28 am
by twocoach
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
No, they informed banks that "while the Equal Credit Opportunity Act allows a creditor to consider an applicant’s immigration status when necessary to ascertain the creditor’s rights regarding repayment, creditors should be aware that unnecessary or overbroad reliance on immigration status, including when that reliance is based on bias, may run afoul of the law."
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-u ... pplicants/
The "logic of the move here" is to ensure that banks follow the law and give credit to applicants who have the ability to pay back the loan, regardless of their perceived immigration status as well as to help protect banks from creating blanket policies that put them in violation of a person's civil rights., opening them up to civil litigation and fines.
Here is the full joint statement made by the Justice Department and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:
https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/doc ... A2oRDf.pdf
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:29 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
Having illegal immigrants borrow money on the black market is a clear and easy way to put people at risk.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:45 am
by Shirley
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:28 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
No, they informed banks that "while the Equal Credit Opportunity Act allows a creditor to consider an applicant’s immigration status when necessary to ascertain the creditor’s rights regarding repayment, creditors should be aware that unnecessary or overbroad reliance on immigration status, including when that reliance is based on bias, may run afoul of the law."
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-u ... pplicants/
The "logic of the move here" is to ensure that banks follow the law and give credit to applicants who have the ability to pay back the loan, regardless of their perceived immigration status as well as to help protect banks from creating blanket policies that put them in violation of a person's civil rights., opening them up to civil litigation and fines.
Here is the full joint statement made by the Justice Department and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:
https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/doc ... A2oRDf.pdf
Thanks for correcting Randi's false, ignorant post. If he had any self-respect, any sense of shame, he'd be more careful about what he posts.
But he doesn't,
So he won't.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:52 am
by DeletedUser
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:28 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
No, they informed banks that "while the Equal Credit Opportunity Act allows a creditor to consider an applicant’s immigration status when necessary to ascertain the creditor’s rights regarding repayment, creditors should be aware that unnecessary or overbroad reliance on immigration status, including when that reliance is based on bias, may run afoul of the law."
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-u ... pplicants/
The "logic of the move here" is to ensure that banks follow the law and give credit to applicants who have the ability to pay back the loan, regardless of their perceived immigration status as well as to help protect banks from creating blanket policies that put them in violation of a person's civil rights., opening them up to civil litigation and fines.
Here is the full joint statement made by the Justice Department and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:
https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/doc ... A2oRDf.pdf
Thanks for posting.
I was going to explain in my own words and would have done an inferior job explaining than those posts did.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:58 am
by twocoach
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:45 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:28 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
No, they informed banks that "while the Equal Credit Opportunity Act allows a creditor to consider an applicant’s immigration status when necessary to ascertain the creditor’s rights regarding repayment, creditors should be aware that unnecessary or overbroad reliance on immigration status, including when that reliance is based on bias, may run afoul of the law."
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-u ... pplicants/
The "logic of the move here" is to ensure that banks follow the law and give credit to applicants who have the ability to pay back the loan, regardless of their perceived immigration status as well as to help protect banks from creating blanket policies that put them in violation of a person's civil rights., opening them up to civil litigation and fines.
Here is the full joint statement made by the Justice Department and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:
https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/doc ... A2oRDf.pdf
Thanks for correcting Randi's false, ignorant post. If he had any self-respect, any sense of shame, he'd be more careful about what he posts.
But he doesn't,
So he won't.
He just passes whatever 2-line inaccurate statement he reads in one location over to here. Some people are intellectually curious and when they hear something that sounds off or unfamiliar to them say, "I wonder if this is true, I should check" or "I wonder what this involves, I want to learn more about it" and others are intellectually stagnant and just assume that whatever they read that fits their belief system is true and whatever they read that does not fit their belief system is not true.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:01 am
by twocoach
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:52 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:28 am
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
No, they informed banks that "while the Equal Credit Opportunity Act allows a creditor to consider an applicant’s immigration status when necessary to ascertain the creditor’s rights regarding repayment, creditors should be aware that unnecessary or overbroad reliance on immigration status, including when that reliance is based on bias, may run afoul of the law."
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-u ... pplicants/
The "logic of the move here" is to ensure that banks follow the law and give credit to applicants who have the ability to pay back the loan, regardless of their perceived immigration status as well as to help protect banks from creating blanket policies that put them in violation of a person's civil rights., opening them up to civil litigation and fines.
Here is the full joint statement made by the Justice Department and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:
https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/doc ... A2oRDf.pdf
Thanks for posting.
I was going to explain in my own words and would have done an inferior job explaining than those posts did.
I just finished my annual "Fair Practices in Lending" training for work so it was fresh in my mind. This reminder from the CFPB was part of that training. Unfortunately, I also had to do my annual ALICE training to better prepare myself for a shooter in my building. That this is now a normal training program that workers have to have is a sign of the ignorant times we now live in but that's for another thread.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:09 am
by zsn
randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:17 am
So the biden administration threatened banks not to deny illegal immigrants loans based on their illegal status.
What's the logic in this move?
Is there any thing this administration doesn't do for illegals? No wonder we have a border crisis and there is so much incentive to illegally immigrate here
Giving loans to illegal immigrants is a clear and easy way to put financial institutions at risk
Since being an “illegal immigrant**” Is such a great benefit in your mind shouldn’t you give up your citizenship and be better off??
** Use of this term is immediate evidence that the person using this term is a demagogue and has no idea about immigration/employment status or the law. As I’ve explained before, there are three levels to an individual’s immigration/employment status for those not born in the US. Entry, presence and employment authorization. A foreign tourist can enter legally, stay legally and accept unauthorized employment. Is that person an “illegal immigrant”?
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:25 am
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:58 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:45 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:28 am
No, they informed banks that "while the Equal Credit Opportunity Act allows a creditor to consider an applicant’s immigration status when necessary to ascertain the creditor’s rights regarding repayment, creditors should be aware that unnecessary or overbroad reliance on immigration status, including when that reliance is based on bias, may run afoul of the law."
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-u ... pplicants/
The "logic of the move here" is to ensure that banks follow the law and give credit to applicants who have the ability to pay back the loan, regardless of their perceived immigration status as well as to help protect banks from creating blanket policies that put them in violation of a person's civil rights., opening them up to civil litigation and fines.
Here is the full joint statement made by the Justice Department and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:
https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/doc ... A2oRDf.pdf
Thanks for correcting Randi's false, ignorant post. If he had any self-respect, any sense of shame, he'd be more careful about what he posts.
But he doesn't,
So he won't.
He just passes whatever 2-line inaccurate statement he reads in one location over to here. Some people are intellectually curious and when they hear something that sounds off or unfamiliar to them say, "I wonder if this is true, I should check" or "I wonder what this involves, I want to learn more about it" and others are intellectually stagnant and just assume that whatever they read that fits their belief system is true and whatever they read that does not fit their belief system is not true.
I think the problem is more fundamental than that. It's not that some people want their priors confirmed in connection with understanding things. It's that some people have no interest in issues
except in service of their priors.
In this way, consumer lending is middle school sports is race-based admissions is tax policy is ... on and on. The issues themselves - not just any particular approach to them - exist to serve the worldview. The issues ONLY exist as a vehicle for the worldview.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:39 am
by MICHHAWK
if it means more votes for the "anything goes" party. then/than yes. uncle will write loans to people that are in this country illegally. if not, then/than he won't.
it's all about the votes for the "anything goes" party.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:40 am
by Shirley
Interesting jfish, never thought of it that way before.
Re: Uncle Joe
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:40 am
by DeletedUser
Banks make loans to foreigners all the time.
This is one of those headlines meant to trigger the reader...and the target audience is a reader who only reads the headlines.