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Re: who ya got?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:13 am
by twocoach
TraditionKU wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:58 amwow
More than anything else, this is what I want: "He solicits expertise and has turned that knowledge into solid policy proposals.".

I dont expect a President to know everything, it is impossible. I do expect a President to appoint appropriate people to important positions and to listen to the people who do have expertise on a topic. To me, that has been Trump's biggest failure as a President. I had hoped like many that he would listen to the adults in the room with knowledge but instead he has fired them, driven them out of their position or attempted to discredit them.

His massive ego simply cannot tolerate being seen as anything less than the alpha dog in any scenario. That just doesnt work in this job.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:36 am
by zsn
One of the best “advice” I got from a former boss (reason I put in quotes is because she was describing our high-performing department, and not giving advice - she was the department head) - I don’t have to be the smartest person in the room. I just have to recognize who the smart people are and give them the correct tools and opportunities to be successful.

I have used this principle ever since. I know that some members of my team are extremely talented and many are at least as talented as I am, if not more. However, I have a lot more experience and I’m not threatened when they challenge my thinking. In fact I welcome it, as long as it is not disruptive, and respectful to others. Of course ours is a highly technical field and highly collaborative environment.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:44 am
by Deleted User 89
zsn wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:36 am One of the best “advice” I got from a former boss (reason I put in quotes is because she was describing our high-performing department, and not giving advice - she was the department head) - I don’t have to be the smartest person in the room. I just have to recognize who the smart people are and give them the correct tools and opportunities to be successful.

I have used this principle ever since. I know that some members of my team are extremely talented and many are at least as talented as I am, if not more. However, I have a lot more experience and I’m not threatened when they challenge my thinking. In fact I welcome it, as long as it is not disruptive, and respectful to others. Of course ours is a highly technical field and highly collaborative environment.
this, imo, is one of the keys to being a successful manager in any situation...identifying who has what strengths (and weaknesses), and empowering people to be able to accentuate their strengths

not only does it foster productivity, but it also tends to lead to happier people

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:55 am
by twocoach
zsn wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:36 am One of the best “advice” I got from a former boss (reason I put in quotes is because she was describing our high-performing department, and not giving advice - she was the department head) - I don’t have to be the smartest person in the room. I just have to recognize who the smart people are and give them the correct tools and opportunities to be successful.

I have used this principle ever since. I know that some members of my team are extremely talented and many are at least as talented as I am, if not more. However, I have a lot more experience and I’m not threatened when they challenge my thinking. In fact I welcome it, as long as it is not disruptive, and respectful to others. Of course ours is a highly technical field and highly collaborative environment.
Agreed. No job should be more collaborative than President of the US.

But his ego just simply will not allow it and we as a nation are suffering for his stubborn ignorance and maniacal ego.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:06 pm
by sdoyel
Yes!


Re: who ya got?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:47 pm
by Mjl
What's the best way to handle Biden from a comedic standpoint?
The stumbling and stuttering isn't exactly funny. I guess you could play on his ability to use 100 words to say something when 8 would have sufficed.
Might be good just to throw in random awful gaffes.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:16 am
by Deleted User 310
come on man!

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:13 pm
by Mjl
Biden was solid (albeit boring and stumbling a bit at times and apologizing too much) in the town hall. If someone was told that the mental acuity of one candidate was waning and had them watch both town halls from this week, I don't think they would think it's Joe.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:53 pm
by sdoyel
Mjl wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:13 pm Biden was solid (albeit boring and stumbling a bit at times and apologizing too much) in the town hall. If someone was told that the mental acuity of one candidate was waning and had them watch both town halls from this week, I don't think they would think it's Joe.
I mean Trump mistook Cancer for Covid...

The debates are going to be very telling. Biden looks prepared.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:32 am
by Deleted User 310
Let's be real...hardly anybody is making up their mind based on town halls or debates this time around.

The trump people think biden has dementia. The biden people have 4 years of evidence that Trump is an awful president.

This all comes down to voter turnout in a few key states. Will the dems who don't always vote show up and vote? I think so. But if they don't there is a chance this nightmare will continue for 4 more years.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:52 am
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:32 am Let's be real...hardly anybody is making up their mind based on town halls or debates this time around.

The trump people think biden has dementia. The biden people have 4 years of evidence that Trump is an awful president.

This all comes down to voter turnout in a few key states. Will the dems who don't always vote show up and vote? I think so. But if they don't there is a chance this nightmare will continue for 4 more years.
I saw an estimate that 9% of voters are undecided still. That's a good number of votes still up for grabs. Turnout will obviously be key but these town halls and debates matter to more people than you think.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:55 am
by Deleted User 310
twocoach wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:52 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:32 am Let's be real...hardly anybody is making up their mind based on town halls or debates this time around.

The trump people think biden has dementia. The biden people have 4 years of evidence that Trump is an awful president.

This all comes down to voter turnout in a few key states. Will the dems who don't always vote show up and vote? I think so. But if they don't there is a chance this nightmare will continue for 4 more years.
I saw an estimate that 9% of voters are undecided still. That's a good number of votes still up for grabs. Turnout will obviously be key but these town halls and debates matter to more people than you think.
Personally i think those 9% are lying because they are embarrassed that they are going to vote for trump... just like they did last time.

Normally i try to watch all of the town halls and debates. This time i won't watch any unless i am just bored and it is the best thing on.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:09 am
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:55 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:52 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:32 am Let's be real...hardly anybody is making up their mind based on town halls or debates this time around.

The trump people think biden has dementia. The biden people have 4 years of evidence that Trump is an awful president.

This all comes down to voter turnout in a few key states. Will the dems who don't always vote show up and vote? I think so. But if they don't there is a chance this nightmare will continue for 4 more years.
I saw an estimate that 9% of voters are undecided still. That's a good number of votes still up for grabs. Turnout will obviously be key but these town halls and debates matter to more people than you think.
Personally i think those 9% are lying because they are embarrassed that they are going to vote for trump... just like they did last time.

Normally i try to watch all of the town halls and debates. This time i won't watch any unless i am just bored and it is the best thing on.
I will absolutely watch the debates because I want to see that for myself. Town halls are fine to catch the wrap ups the next day for me.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:19 am
by ousdahl
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:55 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:52 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:32 am Let's be real...hardly anybody is making up their mind based on town halls or debates this time around.

The trump people think biden has dementia. The biden people have 4 years of evidence that Trump is an awful president.

This all comes down to voter turnout in a few key states. Will the dems who don't always vote show up and vote? I think so. But if they don't there is a chance this nightmare will continue for 4 more years.
I saw an estimate that 9% of voters are undecided still. That's a good number of votes still up for grabs. Turnout will obviously be key but these town halls and debates matter to more people than you think.
Personally i think those 9% are lying because they are embarrassed that they are going to vote for trump... just like they did last time.

Normally i try to watch all of the town halls and debates. This time i won't watch any unless i am just bored and it is the best thing on.
Which is worse:

The flag-waving outspoken Trumpalos?

Or the closeted ones?

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:13 am
by Deleted User 310
ousdahl wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:19 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:55 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:52 am
I saw an estimate that 9% of voters are undecided still. That's a good number of votes still up for grabs. Turnout will obviously be key but these town halls and debates matter to more people than you think.
Personally i think those 9% are lying because they are embarrassed that they are going to vote for trump... just like they did last time.

Normally i try to watch all of the town halls and debates. This time i won't watch any unless i am just bored and it is the best thing on.
Which is worse:

The flag-waving outspoken Trumpalos?

Or the closeted ones?
It depends I suppose.

At least you know what you are getting with the outspoken ones.

In this election i sort of only think there are a few types of voters (not including dems):
-people who somehow like trump/think he is smart.
-people who are appalled by trump and would literally vote for anything/anyone over him.
-people who hate dems and will vote against them at all costs no matter the price.
-people who cringe at trump, but have enough money (or think they do) that they feel the must vote for a repiblican for tax purposes.


There may be a few more segments but that pretty well covers most of them.


And for the last segment it is hilarious that they overlook all his spending and only focus on the tax cuts they may have received. When you spend this much the money has to come from somewhere. It can't all be future spending reductions. Inflation will almost have to occur on some level, and that is no different than paying slightly higher taxes. In the end it reduces your buying power one way or another.

Way too many people think they are "rich" and allow that to dictate all their voting habits. When in reality most dems increased tax proposals would barely impact them at all.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:18 am
by Cascadia
ousdahl wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:19 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:55 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:52 am
I saw an estimate that 9% of voters are undecided still. That's a good number of votes still up for grabs. Turnout will obviously be key but these town halls and debates matter to more people than you think.
Personally i think those 9% are lying because they are embarrassed that they are going to vote for trump... just like they did last time.

Normally i try to watch all of the town halls and debates. This time i won't watch any unless i am just bored and it is the best thing on.
Which is worse:

The flag-waving outspoken Trumpalos?

Or the closeted ones?
Which is worse:

Lobster?

or Illy?

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:20 am
by Deleted User 310
Jesus christ man. Find some friends or a gf/bf. Your act around here is tired and played out.

It is sad nobody calls him out on this stuff.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:26 am
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:20 am Jesus christ man. Find some friends or a gf/bf. Your act around here is tired and played out.

It is sad nobody calls him out on this stuff.
That needs to be called out? For what? That seems to be no different than any of the other needling of users that happens here on a daily basis.

This site would be rendered unusable if that's how low we drop the bar for needing to "call out" users.

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:10 am
by Deleted User 89
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:20 am Jesus christ man. Find some friends or a gf/bf. Your act around here is tired and played out.

It is sad nobody calls him out on this stuff.
i find it amusing

you don’t because you’re often the target

Re: who ya got?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:00 am
by Deleted User 310
Shocking responses. 🙄

It is nearly all he does.