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Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:18 pm
by twocoach
Sigh

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:16 pm
by Deleted User 62
JFC

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:07 am
by Mjl
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:17 pm
Mjl wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:43 pm Pointing out a case of an illegal immigrant committing rape while ignoring others insinuates that illegal immigrants are all bad, or is supposed to make the reader/viewer think that.
If you can't point out every single case of rape then you can't point out any rape. Got it.


(You know it doesn't actually insinuate that ALL illegal immigrants are bad, right?)
Started writing a response but not sure it's worth it. Do you honestly just believe they are randomly reporting this rape case and no others and there is no insinuation there?

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:51 am
by Deleted User 75
Mjl wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:07 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:17 pm
Mjl wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:43 pm Pointing out a case of an illegal immigrant committing rape while ignoring others insinuates that illegal immigrants are all bad, or is supposed to make the reader/viewer think that.
If you can't point out every single case of rape then you can't point out any rape. Got it.


(You know it doesn't actually insinuate that ALL illegal immigrants are bad, right?)
Started writing a response but not sure it's worth it. Do you honestly just believe they are randomly reporting this rape case and no others and there is no insinuation there?
No...I've said numerous times in this thread Fox picked this out for a reason (just like nearly all stories are picked out for a reason). That reason is border security...that reason is NOT that somehow they're insinuating that ALL illegal immigrants are committing rape. I have no idea how we've made this leap...and I don't even watch or like Fox news.

They couldn't possibly report on every on going rape case in the country....but since they aren't/can't, I guess they should have ignored this rape case too.

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:16 am
by Deleted User 89
if it wasn’t faux news, i’d be inclined to agree with illy

but then i’m reminded of laura ingraham

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:22 am
by twocoach
More non-white people getting the boot: https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... %3A26%3A40

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:19 am
by Deleted User 75
So confused why you feel the need to mention the color of their skin....even more confused why instead of saying their ethnicity you think it's better to just call them non-white, as if whites are the only race of American citizens....


Here's the important snippet from the article YOU posted....

""The White House unilaterally reinterpreted the agreement in the spring of 2017 to exempt people convicted of crimes from its protections, allowing the administration to send back a small number of pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants, a policy it retreated from this past August. Last week, however, James Thrower, a spokesperson for the U.S. embassy in Hanoi, said the American government was again reversing course.""



Your article doesn't say they're sending back ALL "non-white" people from those countries.....just some of the ones who have committed crimes....why is that an issue for you?

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:00 am
by dolomite
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:24 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:17 pm
Mjl wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:43 pm Pointing out a case of an illegal immigrant committing rape while ignoring others insinuates that illegal immigrants are all bad, or is supposed to make the reader/viewer think that.
If you can't point out every single case of rape then you can't point out any rape. Got it.


(You know it doesn't actually insinuate that ALL illegal immigrants are bad, right?)
But it does, to the audience it is blasted at. One of my colleagues brought it up this morning. And yes, he is convinced that the majority of illegal immigrants are indeed serious criminals.

This bull shit got a fucking idiot elected "President". Whether you believe it or not......
cankles

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:53 am
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:19 am So confused why you feel the need to mention the color of their skin....even more confused why instead of saying their ethnicity you think it's better to just call them non-white, as if whites are the only race of American citizens....


Here's the important snippet from the article YOU posted....

""The White House unilaterally reinterpreted the agreement in the spring of 2017 to exempt people convicted of crimes from its protections, allowing the administration to send back a small number of pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants, a policy it retreated from this past August. Last week, however, James Thrower, a spokesperson for the U.S. embassy in Hanoi, said the American government was again reversing course.""



Your article doesn't say they're sending back ALL "non-white" people from those countries.....just some of the ones who have committed crimes....why is that an issue for you?
The article shows yet another example of the fact that this administration is letting it be known that ALL immigrants, even the ones who have been here for decades, are now under review and at risk of being deported.

You can bury your head in the sand and buy the simpleton explanation provided to you but that is what is happening.

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:23 am
by Deleted User 75
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:53 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:19 am So confused why you feel the need to mention the color of their skin....even more confused why instead of saying their ethnicity you think it's better to just call them non-white, as if whites are the only race of American citizens....


Here's the important snippet from the article YOU posted....

""The White House unilaterally reinterpreted the agreement in the spring of 2017 to exempt people convicted of crimes from its protections, allowing the administration to send back a small number of pre-1995 Vietnamese immigrants, a policy it retreated from this past August. Last week, however, James Thrower, a spokesperson for the U.S. embassy in Hanoi, said the American government was again reversing course.""



Your article doesn't say they're sending back ALL "non-white" people from those countries.....just some of the ones who have committed crimes....why is that an issue for you?
The article shows yet another example of the fact that this administration is letting it be known that ALL immigrants, even the ones who have been here for decades, are now under review and at risk of being deported.

You can bury your head in the sand and buy the simpleton explanation provided to you but that is what is happening.
Dude, they're only deporting the 1s with criminal records....why is that so unreasonable?

Is it really because they don't deport all the white citizens who have committed crimes?

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:25 am
by Deleted User 75
People who are here and are not citizens should absolutely be at risk of deportation if they committed crimes.....it's literally that way in most countries around the world....and in some countries it's WAY worse than that.

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:26 am
by Deleted User 62
Who gets to determine what crimes deport someone?

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:26 am
by DCHawk1
Not with the Vietnamese refugees.

This is just petty.

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:30 am
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:25 am People who are here and are not citizens should absolutely be at risk of deportation if they committed crimes.....it's literally that way in most countries around the world....and in some countries it's WAY worse than that.
Can we start a movement to remove the word "literally" from 99% of the times it is used? It is nearly as annoying pervasive as the word "like".

I like, literally see like 100 people like use the word literally all the time. It's like, literally taking over.

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:35 am
by Deleted User 75
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:26 am Who gets to determine what crimes deport someone?
That's a topic worth discussing.

Parking tickets? No.
Drunk in public? No.

Violent crimes, theft, repeat offenders, etc? Yes. Seems reasonable enough to me.

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:44 am
by Deleted User 62
How does it work with the President basically labeling any brown person an Islamic terrorist or MS-13?

Do you honestly not believe that this rhetoric will affect whether or not a parking ticket remains only a parking ticket?

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:49 am
by Deleted User 75
So non citizens who commit crimes shouldn't be at risk of deportation?

Because of mean words?


(Also, he never LITERALLY called ALL brown people MS-13 and Islamic terrorists)

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:54 am
by Deleted User 75
Are you implying law enforcement around the country are so unethical that they are creating fake crimes to make parking tickets turn into the types of crimes that would get someone deported?

This is madness.

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:57 am
by DCHawk1
jeepinjayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:44 am How does it work with the President basically labeling any brown person an Islamic terrorist or MS-13?

ugh

Re: The illegal immigrants want in

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:01 am
by Deleted User 75
Fear mongering by plano.