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Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:47 am
by Mjl
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:07 am What in the hell?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... =401168241
UNC completely fell apart when Bacot went down. Absolutely no front court besides him. And they stopped defending when things got rough.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:52 am
by NewtonHawk11
Roy started putting in walk-ons with like 8 minutes to go or something like that. Truly bizarre.

Roy knows these games don't mean much. They'll make the tournament as a 3 seed or something like that. And be full strength and ready to go.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:56 am
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:52 am Roy started putting in walk-ons with like 8 minutes to go or something like that. Truly bizarre.
Not bizarre for the showman. 5 new substitutions and a sports coat throw. The keeds heard the message!

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:08 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:56 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:52 am Roy started putting in walk-ons with like 8 minutes to go or something like that. Truly bizarre.
Not bizarre for the showman. 5 new substitutions and a sports coat throw. The keeds heard the message!
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basket ... fieldhouse

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:14 am
by CrimsonNBlue
UK-UMich doing a game next season in London.

I wouldn't hate doing something like that.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:19 am
by holidaysmore
If there was ever a year for KU to win it all because of the overall parity in CBB this would be the year.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:23 am
by CrimsonNBlue
holidaysmore wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:19 am If there was ever a year for KU to win it all because of the overall parity in CBB this would be the year.
And we are the most complete team along with a healthy Sparty.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:36 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:14 am UK-UMich doing a game next season in London.

I wouldn't hate doing something like that.
That's a big trip for two hours. It'd have to be a Maui-type schedule (and slate) to justify it for me.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:48 am
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:36 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:14 am UK-UMich doing a game next season in London.

I wouldn't hate doing something like that.
That's a big trip for two hours. It'd have to be a Maui-type schedule (and slate) to justify it for me.
I look at it as one of only a few ways to get me there. Not much interest otherwise--too many places to see.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:51 am
by NewtonHawk11
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:23 am
holidaysmore wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:19 am If there was ever a year for KU to win it all because of the overall parity in CBB this would be the year.
And we are the most complete team along with a healthy Sparty.
I don't think a healthy Sparty gets there. I think they struggle on offense and defense. Duke destroyed them down low. Winston hasn't been up to par (Always thought he was fairly overrated anyway) I know they are missing a key piece, but they have struggled big time.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:54 am
by MICHHAWK
Winston’s brother was murdered a few weeks ago. That may be weighing on him some.

HCTI will have them ready for March. Don’t worry about that.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:57 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:48 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:36 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:14 am UK-UMich doing a game next season in London.

I wouldn't hate doing something like that.
That's a big trip for two hours. It'd have to be a Maui-type schedule (and slate) to justify it for me.
I look at it as one of only a few ways to get me there. Not much interest otherwise--too many places to see.
Lots of trips like that - if not now, when?

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:59 am
by NewtonHawk11
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:54 am Winston’s brother was murdered a few weeks ago. That may be weighing on him some.

HCTI will have them ready for March. Don’t worry about that.
Izzo in March is overrated. Last year they made Final 4, which is great. But there hasn't been a program like Michigan State that has lost games in the 1st and 2nd rounds like Izzo's Spartans have. Especially being a high 2 or 3 seed.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:02 pm
by jfish26
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:59 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:54 am Winston’s brother was murdered a few weeks ago. That may be weighing on him some.

HCTI will have them ready for March. Don’t worry about that.
Izzo in March is overrated. Last year they made Final 4, which is great. But there hasn't been a program like Michigan State that has lost games in the 1st and 2nd rounds like Izzo's Spartans have. Especially being a high 2 or 3 seed.
Man, it feels like it'd take quite a string of bad outs to make this the case. Eight final fours for Izzo. A long stretch where every four-year guy went to at least one.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:04 pm
by MICHHAWK
Seems like sparty has done alright in the month of March under HCTI. Maybe not.

How many FFs does izzo have?

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:06 pm
by jfish26
I'll go with eight.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:08 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:59 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:54 am Winston’s brother was murdered a few weeks ago. That may be weighing on him some.

HCTI will have them ready for March. Don’t worry about that.
Izzo in March is overrated. Last year they made Final 4, which is great. But there hasn't been a program like Michigan State that has lost games in the 1st and 2nd rounds like Izzo's Spartans have. Especially being a high 2 or 3 seed.
K and Duke seem to have the most early bow outs as a high seed.


As for Sparty, it just seems their ceiling is as high as ours. Maybe only Kentucky could say the same thing. I just really like our team.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:11 pm
by NewtonHawk11
When people like to say January, February, Izzo it just doesn't make since to me. Could to others, but not me.

He's a damn good coach. But he's not Mr. March like many say. 3 of those Final 4's were in the first 6 years. 5 in 18 years since. Great to have that, but he's also lost in the round of 64 or 32 8 times in those 18 years since. That's a really high number for a great March coach. (Self has had 5 and Coach K 5 in same time frame) Consistency is not there to be considered a great coach in March.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:13 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
5 FF's in 18 is really good, though.

I would guess only Roy could match. Maybe K.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:14 pm
by NewtonHawk11
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:08 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:59 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:54 am Winston’s brother was murdered a few weeks ago. That may be weighing on him some.

HCTI will have them ready for March. Don’t worry about that.
Izzo in March is overrated. Last year they made Final 4, which is great. But there hasn't been a program like Michigan State that has lost games in the 1st and 2nd rounds like Izzo's Spartans have. Especially being a high 2 or 3 seed.
K and Duke seem to have the most early bow outs as a high seed.


As for Sparty, it just seems their ceiling is as high as ours. Maybe only Kentucky could say the same thing. I just really like our team.
As I looked just now. In last 18 years. Spartans out in first weekend 8 times. Duke 5 times. Self/KU 6 times.