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Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:00 am
by ousdahl
Let’s put it this way:
I think it says a lot that the only person who thinks “we good” constitutes some unambiguously damning evidence, was illy.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:05 am
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:55 am
But in a side note...
HOLY SHIT did Long and KU throw Beaty under the bus. I mean, my goodness.
Long costing us money in that one was so inevitable.
If Beaty’s lawyers successfully 3rd party subpoenas all the fbi stuff and makes it public, thereby handing it to the NCAA, i’m starting the fire Long campaign.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:08 am
by hartjack8
So the FBI brings a case against individuals saying they defrauded schools and KU was one of the victims.
The Federal gov wins this case saying such individuals defrauded the schools.
Then the NCAA using the same evidence thinks they have a case against the schools.
The NCAA is going to be the death of its own self.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:14 am
by jfish26
I have a lot of thoughts on this. One of them is that we may not see Larry Brown in the fieldhouse again.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:16 am
by DCHawk1
What is it LB is alleged to have done?
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:18 am
by pdub
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... tball-team
The NCAA enforcement staff has 60 days to reply to Kansas' response, and then a hearing before the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions would potentially be scheduled as early as six to eight weeks later.
There's also a possibility the case will be resolved through NCAA's independent accountability resolution process, which the governing body created last year to handle high-profile cases involving potentially serious infractions. Independent investigators, advocates and decision-makers with no direct ties to NCAA member schools further investigate the case, if necessary, and then adjudicate a ruling. Under those procedures, there is no appeal to the independent resolution panel's ruling.
So if this happens, there's no more appeal, and we take whatever medicine the NCAA has decided to prescribe, tylenol PM or bleach.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:18 am
by Deleted User 89
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:16 am
What is it LB is alleged to have done?
i was wondering the same
not that i pay all that much attention to all this, but i’ve not seen his name mentioned before now
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:19 am
by jfish26
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:16 am
What is it LB is alleged to have done?
Painting with a very broad brush - coordinating the provision of improper benefits by Adidas to Falmagne.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:21 am
by pdub
Yikes.
KU judgement coming down the pipeline AND Larry Brown a scapegoat?
Gutter's time to shine.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:23 am
by CrimsonNBlue
I would honestly worry about gutter if we suggest making LB the scapegoat in order to help KU get the wrist slap. He's been grumpy lately.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:25 am
by MICHHAWK
I would just like to get this episode over with and in the rear view mirror. This has been a thing for a couple years now.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:27 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:25 am
I would just like to get this episode over with and in the rear view mirror. This has been a thing for a couple years now.
The longer it plays out, the better for us.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:27 am
by NewtonHawk11
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:25 am
I would just like to get this episode over with and in the rear view mirror. This has been a thing for a couple years now.
It's not going away. It's going to start becoming the death of the NCAA.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:29 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Lawyers tend to like to keep stuff under wraps.
Unless there is a PR angle.
Drag it out. The defense lawyer special.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:52 am
by jfish26
KC Star Editorial Board, you came so close!
KU response to NCAA allegations makes one thing clear: College basketball is broken
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/edit ... 50506.html
The intersection of shoe companies, athletes and their families, agents and college sports programs is the crux of this scandal.
The NCAA — and perhaps the courts — will ultimately decide the legal and factual questions. But there can be no dispute that the close relationship between big-time college basketball programs and apparel companies is sordid, potentially corrupt and completely unnecessary.
Off to a promising start here!
Oh.
The University of Kansas can take the lead in seeking reforms in men’s college basketball. Imagine the impact if the No. 1 team in the nation said it would no longer sign contracts with Adidas or any similar “sponsor.”
There is no legitimate reason — other than a lust for cash — that a college sports program must affiliate itself with a private company that makes clothes and shoes, or which hires people to pressure 15-year-old kids who want to go to college.
KU must defend itself, and the NCAA must act on evidence, not just supposition or allegation. But college basketball is broken. Kansas should take a lead role in rebuilding it, making it cleaner and more transparent for athletes, students and all Jayhawks fans.
How about, fuck off? It's not KU's job to "lead from the front" in getting big money out of college basketball (which, of course, would cripple the sport).
I fully agree that the money should flow cleanly, and more transparently. But that it doesn't is the fault of the NCAA and the conceit of amateurism, not the school. Jesus.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:55 am
by CrimsonNBlue
In a city that has its share of embarrassments, the Star Editorial Board probably takes the cake.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:58 am
by jfish26
"We agree that marijuana reform should be at the top of every legislator's to-do list. Accordingly, marijuana users must reduce their consumption, thus reducing the statewide crime rate."
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:00 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:55 am
In a city that has its share of embarrassments, the Star Editorial Board probably takes the cake.
Mellinger's response should be noted.
KU vs. the NCAA: a bloody war with no winners, but hopefully a broken system exposed
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-c ... 44031.html
Are Kansas and Adidas out here bidding against nobody? Are Nike schools landing players because they have better commercials?
Or — or! — are they all swimming in the same waters?
But-everyone-is-doing-it defenses are ineffective and a bad look, but this column is not about KU’s defense.
It’s about this entire saga being presented by the NCAA as some noble quest to protect amateurism, when it’s more like selfish, hypocritical and dishonest legislation designed to protect profits.
The rest of the world can see this for what it is: a model that was always built on greed and lies being further exposed as a sham, with palatial dorms and weight rooms built and coaches receiving multimillion contracts and shoe companies paying hundreds of millions as part of a multibillion dollar industry centered on talent that only a fool, or the NCAA’s rules, can believe shouldn’t be paid.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:07 am
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:00 amThe rest of the world can see this for what it is: a model that was always built on greed and lies being further exposed as a sham, with palatial dorms and weight rooms built and coaches receiving multimillion contracts and shoe companies paying hundreds of millions as part of a multibillion dollar industry centered on talent that only a fool, or the NCAA’s rules, can believe shouldn’t be paid.
This is where I will beat a dead horse and again shed light on the absolute trashiness that is the fact that Udoka, being one of the biggest stars in a multimillion dollar entertainment industry, has seen his mom one time in the last 8 years all because of NCAA rules.
Re: KU basketball expected to face multiple major violation allegations from NCAA:
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:12 am
by chiknbut
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:27 am
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:25 am
I would just like to get this episode over with and in the rear view mirror. This has been a thing for a couple years now.
It's not going away. It's going to start becoming the death of the NCAA.
A whole lotta truth in this.