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Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:02 am
by NewtonHawk11
randylahey wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:41 pm
You know who would be great in today's game? Mario little
Good post. Pretty spot on.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:44 am
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:17 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:15 am
"Another player who I thought gave tremendous energy on Sunday morning was the East's Elmarko Jackson," Bossi wrote. "The guard from South Kent (Conn.) Prep who is headed to Kansas and ranks No. 21 overall was as engaged as anybody in the building. When his coaches were talking, he was locked in and immediately picked up everything they were putting down. He pulled teammates aside to help explain things, he was vocal on the floor and he played pretty well too. Jackson has a little extra bounce in his step that few of the other ball handlers have and that pop really lets him get into the lane and make things happen. During shooting drills, his shot looks like it is trending towards much improved. This kid looks like a guy that Bill Self is going to love."
The 6-foot-3 guard is a player who the KU coaching staff fell in love with last summer. Norm Roberts watched Jackson play in person on the grass roots circuit and led the recruitment for the four star guard. KU got the guard on campus for a visit in late September and he announced his commitment to KU just a few weeks later. In the end, Jackson picked KU over 27 other offers from the likes of Texas, Michigan, Ohio State and UCLA to name a few.
This is not exactly giving me the warm and fuzzies.
i saw another write-up that was gushing about Elmarko’s D, and his ability to effectively switch and guard bigger players
that, i like quite a bit (as i’m sure Self does as well)
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:45 am
by holidaysmore
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This is not exactly giving me the warm and fuzzies.
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We just got rid of a guy who fit the same general description.
I don’t want to see lineups where there are three guys who can shoot outside of floaters and lane drives.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:10 am
by ousdahl
we just got rid of a couple guys who fit that general description, actually.
But one was a top 150 guy, one was a mid-major transfer, and both were undersized. Elmarko is a bigger, longer, top 25 burger kid. That in itself is a lot more to like.
And while nothing is guaranteed, that stuff suggests he's more likely to contribute at an elite D1 program.
or, yea, maybe Self really just cannot get over his man crush on guards who can't shoot.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:38 am
by KUTradition
or, yea, maybe Self really just cannot get over his man crush on guards who can lock down on defense.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:44 am
by ousdahl
I mean, do they have to be mutually exclusive?
But yea, I think it’s clear Self’s strategy is, recruit defensive types and hope they can learn to score, much more so than recruit scorers and hope they can learn to defend.
But hey, as a whole, I guess it’s mostly worked out
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:52 am
by TDub
ive said it before....but shame you weren't sound for Roy....you would've loved him
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:04 am
by AlOerter
I heard Self say some years ago and don't know if he's changed his mind, that he likes to recruit guys who can score. He said you can teach them to guard but it's hard to teach a guy to score who isn't already a natural scorer.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:10 am
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:52 am
ive said it before....but shame you weren't sound for Roy....you would've loved him
roiboimeter-8
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:12 am
by KUTradition
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:44 am
I mean, do they have to be mutually exclusive?
But yea, I think it’s clear Self’s strategy is, recruit defensive types and hope they can learn to score, much more so than recruit scorers and hope they can learn to defend.
But hey, as a whole, I guess it’s mostly worked out
obviously they don’t have to be mutually exclusive, but elite D comes from internal motivation coupled with athleticism
you can teach and re-craft shot mechanics, but kids either want to play D or they don’t…we’ve had plenty of great shooters here that were lacking quite a bit on the defensive end, and not because they lacked the athleticism to excel on that side of the ball
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:18 am
by pdub
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:25 am
by ousdahl
wait, to do the roiboi meter you just type [roiboi] then the number then [/roiboi]
good to know! Or prob more accurately, to be reminded.
now if you'll excuse me, I have to give TDub a ride to the dry cleaner so he can pick up his plaid sport coat. Dude must have spilled his Diet Coke on it again, doggonit.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:29 am
by pdub
Yes.
There is also a gutter meter, an illy meter and a cascadia meter.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:40 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:25 am
wait, to do the roiboi meter you just type [roiboi] then the number then [/roiboi]
good to know! Or prob more accurately, to be reminded.
now if you'll excuse me, I have to give TDub a ride to the dry cleaner so he can pick up his plaid sport coat. Dude must have spilled his Diet Coke on it again, doggonit.
if you misunderstood me (as you often do) ..... it is you who I was saying wouldve loved Roy.
I also like Roy, but Bill is a better coach.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:27 pm
by pdub
Caleb Love transferring.
I imagine most here would take.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:01 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Don't think Bill will. Going 9-25, 8-18, 3-15, 8-20, 9-20 in a game aint it. Regardless if it's a high percentage, taking all those shots isn't going to work here.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:05 pm
by jfish26
I like the idea of bringing in a proven scoring guard.
But I do not like implementing that idea by bringing in a guy who hasn't cracked 40% from the floor in three heavy-minutes seasons.
My initial reaction is that he's not so different from Remy as a player, but even with higher volume, Remy was more efficient.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:26 pm
by InfiniteJ
KU went after Love pretty hard before he committed to UNC. UNC allowed him to play a style that won't fly at KU...not unlike what Yesufu was allowed to do at Drake compared to KU. Still, I expect Bill and staff to kick the tires on Love just to see if there's something that could be beneficial to both parties.
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:36 pm
by Back2Lawrence
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:01 pm
Don't think Bill will. Going 9-25, 8-18, 3-15, 8-20, 9-20 in a game aint it. Regardless if it's a high percentage, taking all those shots isn't going to work here.
How is his defense?
Re: 2023-2024 lineup
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:10 pm
by hoopla
InfiniteJ wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:26 pm
KU went after Love pretty hard before he committed to UNC. UNC allowed him to play a style that won't fly at KU...not unlike what Yesufu was allowed to do at Drake compared to KU. Still, I expect Bill and staff to kick the tires on Love just to see if there's something that could be beneficial to both parties.
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