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Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:15 pm
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:11 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:48 pm
Immigration judges are needed to process all kinds of actions, including
adverse ones. Denials of asylum. Deportations. Visa violation reviews.
The problem with more immigration judges, and the legal process generally, is that the legal process does not satisfy the bloodlust on the right for rounding up, detaining and forcefully punishing people.
They willfully and knowingly broke our laws. They daily put a drain on an already failing system. My compassion and patience are gone.
Judges are how we resolve the backlog of cases. There is no - zero, zilch, nada - practical possibility of an effective wall.
And as much as you might think the United States is a shithole, the fact is that things are SO much better here than in most other places that you aren't going to deter people from coming by treating those that do inhumanely; that's how their lives already ARE, so they're going to take their chances.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:16 pm
by JKLivin
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:36 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:32 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:15 pm
giggles
maybe you should lie some more…that usually helps
You need some new material.
oh, the irony
giggles
Brilliant! You should go on tour.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:17 pm
by JKLivin
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:15 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:11 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:48 pm
Immigration judges are needed to process all kinds of actions, including
adverse ones. Denials of asylum. Deportations. Visa violation reviews.
The problem with more immigration judges, and the legal process generally, is that the legal process does not satisfy the bloodlust on the right for rounding up, detaining and forcefully punishing people.
They willfully and knowingly broke our laws. They daily put a drain on an already failing system. My compassion and patience are gone.
Judges are how we resolve the backlog of cases. There is no - zero, zilch, nada - practical possibility of an effective wall.
And as much as you might think the United States is a shithole, the fact is that things are SO much better here than in most other places that you aren't going to deter people from coming by treating those that do inhumanely; that's how their lives already ARE, so they're going to take their chances.
Exactly. So, we have to make the consequences of breaking the law and coming here even worse. It’s called a deterrent.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:18 pm
by MICHHAWK
if you are here illegally. i don't think it is inhumane to send them packing.
i think we still have laws.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:35 pm
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:17 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:15 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:11 pm
They willfully and knowingly broke our laws. They daily put a drain on an already failing system. My compassion and patience are gone.
Judges are how we resolve the backlog of cases. There is no - zero, zilch, nada - practical possibility of an effective wall.
And as much as you might think the United States is a shithole, the fact is that things are SO much better here than in most other places that you aren't going to deter people from coming by treating those that do inhumanely; that's how their lives already ARE, so they're going to take their chances.
Exactly. So, we have to make the consequences of breaking the law and coming here even worse. It’s called a deterrent.
We're better than that.
And my opinion would not change even if things were as bad here as you say they are.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:37 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:18 pm
if you are here illegally. i don't think it is inhumane to send them packing.
i think we still have laws.
I agree with you. I read psych's last post to suggest that merely following legal process and sending them packing is not sufficiently deterrent - "we have to make the consequences of breaking the law and coming here even worse [than staying where they are in the first place]", is how I read his post.
If I misunderstood, I'd be happy to be wrong.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:43 pm
by KUTradition
PURGE!!!
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:44 pm
by KUTradition
WWJD?
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:45 pm
by KUTradition
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:16 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:36 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:32 pm
You need some new material.
oh, the irony
giggles
Brilliant! You should go on tour.
gaggles of giggles
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:52 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:18 pm
if you are here illegally. i don't think it is inhumane to send them packing.
i think we still have laws.
And the US is doing that by deporting record numbers of people under Biden.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:17 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:15 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:11 pm
They willfully and knowingly broke our laws. They daily put a drain on an already failing system. My compassion and patience are gone.
Judges are how we resolve the backlog of cases. There is no - zero, zilch, nada - practical possibility of an effective wall.
And as much as you might think the United States is a shithole, the fact is that things are SO much better here than in most other places that you aren't going to deter people from coming by treating those that do inhumanely; that's how their lives already ARE, so they're going to take their chances.
Exactly. So, we have to make the consequences of breaking the law and coming here even worse. It’s called a deterrent.
The only way you can deal out consequences is by HIRING enough agents and judges to actual deal with all of the cases. Buit the GOP shitcanned the bill because they prefer the chaos as a means to try to make their terrible candidate be more appealing.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:32 pm
by jhawks99
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:17 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:15 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:11 pm
They willfully and knowingly broke our laws. They daily put a drain on an already failing system. My compassion and patience are gone.
Judges are how we resolve the backlog of cases. There is no - zero, zilch, nada - practical possibility of an effective wall.
And as much as you might think the United States is a shithole, the fact is that things are SO much better here than in most other places that you aren't going to deter people from coming by treating those that do inhumanely; that's how their lives already ARE, so they're going to take their chances.
Exactly. So, we have to make the consequences of breaking the law and coming here even worse. It’s called a deterrent.
Matthew 25: 31-40. “I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me.”
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:33 pm
by KUTradition
idiots waste time treating the symptoms
smart people - ya know, the ones that actually have high IQs - work to solve the root cause of the problem
i guess scratching racist and xenophobic itches feels better for some
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:16 pm
by JKLivin
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:33 pm
idiots waste time treating the symptoms
smart people - ya know, the ones that actually have high IQs - work to solve the root cause of the problem
i guess scratching racist and xenophobic itches feels better for some
You’re ridiculous. And predictable. And lame. Congratulations!
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:20 pm
by KUTradition
speaking of predictable…
you should go into politics with your level of projection…you can be steven miller’s backup
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:36 pm
by JKLivin
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:20 pm
speaking of predictable…
you should go into politics with your level of projection…you can be steven miller’s backup
I prefer a job that has meaning and makes the world a better place.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:49 pm
by KUTradition
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:05 pm
by JKLivin
Hey, we can’t all hawk shitty boats or promote social agendas thinly disguised as highly inexact sciences.
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:12 pm
by KUTradition
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:20 pm
speaking of predictable…
Re: Foreign aid to ukraine
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:17 pm
by JKLivin
Hey, if you’re not going to put forth any effort, then neither am I.
