IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:05 am
Patience is a virtue that most Americans don't possess.
There was just no way we were going to make it far enough through without incessant bitching and moaning.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:26 am
by HouseDivided
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:05 am
Patience is a virtue that most Americans don't possess.
Unemployment is a state of being most Americans can’t survive.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:29 am
by HouseDivided
Feral wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:27 am
Damn you, you "elites"!
The first coronavirus vaccine to be tested in people appears to be safe and able to stimulate an immune response against the virus, its manufacturer, Moderna announced on Monday.
The findings are based on results from the first eight people who each received two doses of the vaccine, starting in March.
Those people, healthy volunteers, made antibodies that were then tested in human cells in the lab, and were able to stop the virus from replicating — the key requirement for an effective vaccine. The levels of those so-called neutralizing antibodies matched the levels found in patients who had recovered after contracting the virus in the community.
The company has said that it is proceeding on an accelerated timetable, with the second phase involving 600 people to begin soon, and a third phase to begin in July involving thousands of healthy people. The Food and Drug Administration gave Moderna the go-ahead for the second phase earlier this month.
If those trials go well, a vaccine could become available for widespread use by the end of this year or early 2021, Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna’s chief medical officer, said in an interview. How many doses might be ready is not clear, but Dr. Zaks said, “We’re doing our best to make it as many millions as possible.”
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Hooray! We might all get to come out of our holes by 2022! Thank you, Bill Gates and George Soros. May we have some more soy paste in the meantime?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:35 am
by pdub
There are projections of 25% unemployment so there is validity behind finding the acceptable amount of risk and understanding more are going to get infected regardless of what we do -- I think they are doing this so far for the most part.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:49 am
by seahawk
If we can make it further without the Bubbas acting out aggressively, as encouraged by President Bodybags and those here in the Granny Must Die for the Dow Party, that might be helpful. One friend in her 80s and her daughter were accosted in a tiny farmers market store over the weekend by one of the Bubbas--for the sin of wearing masks. This, in a store owned by farmers that sells local produce, where some of us go to try and help our local farmers. My friend, who lived all over the world with a career USAF pilot husband, was cornered by this guy.
It won't help reopening that President Bodybags encourages this behavior.
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:05 am
Patience is a virtue that most Americans don't possess.
Unemployment is a state of being most Americans can’t survive.
Totally agree. We will (hopefully) find a happy (tolerable) medium that protects the elderly/immunocompromised and protects us from economic disaster.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:07 am
by MICHHAWK
1. That story sounds made up so you can further your agenda.
2. I call bull$#it that an 80 year old was accosted at a farmers market for wearing a mask.
Nice try though. Very feral of you.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:12 am
by jfish26
pdub wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:35 am
There are projections of 25% unemployment so there is validity behind finding the acceptable amount of risk and understanding more are going to get infected regardless of what we do -- I think they are doing this so far for the most part.
There will be some significant fallout when (not if) it turns out that "reopening the economy" doesn't end up bringing that number down to something only pretty bad. Without consumer confidence in the plan and the medium- and long-term path ahead, all "reopening" will do is purge folks from the unemployment rolls.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:17 am
by Shirley
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:07 am
1. That story sounds made up so you can further your agenda.
2. I call bull$#it that an 80 year old was accosted at a farmers market for wearing a mask.
Nice try though. Very feral of you.
Show something I posted here that was untruthful, i.e., "made up".
Illi made a similar remark a couple of months ago, I asked him for the evidence, and I'm still waiting to see it.
I'll wait over here...
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:23 am
by Shirley
Note to self: In the future, consider until proven otherwise, all Trump appointments as a leading indicator for companies with obvious conflicts of interest.
According to the New York Daily News, at one point, Trump's COVID-19 Czar, Moncef Slaoui, was up $3.4 million earlier today on his Moderna stock.
pdub wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:35 am
There are projections of 25% unemployment so there is validity behind finding the acceptable amount of risk and understanding more are going to get infected regardless of what we do -- I think they are doing this so far for the most part.
There will be some significant fallout when (not if) it turns out that "reopening the economy" doesn't end up bringing that number down to something only pretty bad. Without consumer confidence in the plan and the medium- and long-term path ahead, all "reopening" will do is purge folks from the unemployment rolls.
Again. This illustrates the necessity for a good vaccine.
pdub wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:35 am
There are projections of 25% unemployment so there is validity behind finding the acceptable amount of risk and understanding more are going to get infected regardless of what we do -- I think they are doing this so far for the most part.
There will be some significant fallout when (not if) it turns out that "reopening the economy" doesn't end up bringing that number down to something only pretty bad. Without consumer confidence in the plan and the medium- and long-term path ahead, all "reopening" will do is purge folks from the unemployment rolls.
Again. This illustrates the necessity for a good vaccine.
Yes. I don't think anyone doubts this.
I do think that there is not widespread understanding (particularly among folks who stand the most to be hurt by it) that "reopening" is largely a sale of a bill of goods.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:37 am
by DCHawk1
Feral wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:23 am
Note to self: In the future, consider until proven otherwise, all Trump appointments as a leading indicator for companies with obvious conflicts of interest.
According to the New York Daily News, at one point, Trump's COVID-19 Czar, Moncef Slaoui, was up $3.4 million earlier today on his Moderna stock.
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:07 am
1. That story sounds made up so you can further your agenda.
2. I call bull$#it that an 80 year old was accosted at a farmers market for wearing a mask.
Nice try though. Very feral of you.
It's b.s. but it undergirds the OutRAgE guild's position that people who want a commonsense approach to the Plandemic are racist, ageist, sexist, and stoopid.
Feral wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:23 am
Note to self: In the future, consider until proven otherwise, all Trump appointments as a leading indicator for companies with obvious conflicts of interest.
According to the New York Daily News, at one point, Trump's COVID-19 Czar, Moncef Slaoui, was up $3.4 million earlier today on his Moderna stock.
So...elites. Bad or good?
Good if they keep the fear and economic devastation going; bad if they don't, silly. Try to keep up.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:12 am
by Shirley
Psych, your bizarro, paranoid, wrong, hateful, and self-defeating reaction notwithstanding, my heart goes out to you and everyone dealing with the pandemic. But in this particular case, especially, if this guy is right, those of you employed in higher education.
Scott Galloway teaches brand management and digital marketing to second-year MBA students at the New York University Stern School of Business, he's also a public speaker, author, and entrepreneur. In 1992, he founded Prophet, a brand and marketing consultancy firm that employs over 400 professionals in the United States, Europe, and Asia; in 1997, Galloway founded Red Envelope, one of the earliest e-commerce sites. In 2005 Galloway founded the digital intelligence firm L2 Inc, which was acquired in March 2017 by Gartner, for $155 million, and the now defunct Firebrand Partners (founded in 2005), an activist hedge fund that has invested over $1 billion in U.S. consumer and media companies.
Galloway tends to be provocative in his opinions. I haven't followed him for very long and that might just be part of his schtick, but he is forward thinking and often presents a view I might not otherwise think of/see.
The first video is from Galloway's weekly show on Vice TV. It's 6 minutes about the history of higher education economics and how it got to where it is today, and how the pandemic is going to impact it. The second one is an interview on Sat. morning about that segment from Vice, where Galloway expounds on the future of colleges and universities.
Galloway's thoughts about the future of higher education are eyeopening for me, but I'd be curious to hear what others, especially those working in the industry, think.
Feral wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:23 am
Note to self: In the future, consider until proven otherwise, all Trump appointments as a leading indicator for companies with obvious conflicts of interest.
According to the New York Daily News, at one point, Trump's COVID-19 Czar, Moncef Slaoui, was up $3.4 million earlier today on his Moderna stock.
So...conflicted elites. Bad or good?
fyp
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:35 am
by Deleted User 89
i agree with everything but the notion related to affordability and making college available to everyone
i think there is a false idea that college is for everyone, or should be. so many degrees seem to be watered down, and don’t do much for the degree-holder once they’ve graduated other than increase their debt