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Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:47 pm
by jfish26
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:06 pm NCAA lawyers getting opened today

I’m not sure I understand what the NCAA’s lawyers are even TRYING to say by that. Something along the lines of, “they’re not employees, because we say so, which makes them not employees”?

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:01 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Exactly. And the NCAA lawyer repeatedly said he didn't know how the scholarships work. Basically the judge asked if athletes can lose scholarships if they stop playing and/or if they're not renewed. "So this coach has complete control of this young person." Lawyer said he wasn't for sure how the scholarships work and how they're honored.

The NCAA fucking BLOWS

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:50 pm
by KUTradition
sounds like a well-prepared lawyer

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:16 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:50 pm sounds like a well-prepared lawyer
He doesn't have much to work with. There isn't a lot about the NCAA's positions that really makes any sense on a fundamental level.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:57 am
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:16 pm
KUTradition wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:50 pm sounds like a well-prepared lawyer
He doesn't have much to work with. There isn't a lot about the NCAA's positions that really makes any sense on a fundamental level.
i don’t disagree

actually, i had the thought that “not knowing”…aka feigning ignorance…might be part of the strategy

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:29 am
by twocoach
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:01 pm Exactly. And the NCAA lawyer repeatedly said he didn't know how the scholarships work. Basically the judge asked if athletes can lose scholarships if they stop playing and/or if they're not renewed. "So this coach has complete control of this young person." Lawyer said he wasn't for sure how the scholarships work and how they're honored.

The NCAA fucking BLOWS
The "good" news is that the ncaa blows so bad that this all might blow up in their face sooner rather than later,

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:31 am
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:57 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:16 pm
KUTradition wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:50 pm sounds like a well-prepared lawyer
He doesn't have much to work with. There isn't a lot about the NCAA's positions that really makes any sense on a fundamental level.
i don’t disagree

actually, i had the thought that “not knowing”…aka feigning ignorance…might be part of the strategy
It at least keeps the lawyer from having to lie in court. If they told the truth, their case would be unraveled in about 5 minutes and they would be forced to completely trash their fake amateurism model designed to enrich more old white guys.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:12 pm
by Sparko
When I worked in fast food in college, I was compensated by the value of training I received. Felt great.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:30 pm
by KUTradition

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:31 pm
by InfiniteJ
Apparently, Kansas officials, including Bill and Townsend, had a NCAA hearing this last weekend in Atlanta.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:58 am
by NewtonHawk11
Which seems to make sense considering KU had zero visits last weekend.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:21 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Please forgive my ignorance.
Why would Self and Townsend have an NCAA hearing, over a/the weekend, in Atlanta?

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:10 am
by NewtonHawk11
Atlanta probably the easiest place to fly to for those involved.

Keep in mind, this is not strictly an NCAA thing based in Indianapolis. They have committee members from San Diego, Atlanta, Florida, West Virginia, New York, San Francisco, Tennessee and more. Those members are lawyers, Athletic Directors, Former Heads of Military and more.

Just my $0.02

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:59 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:10 am Atlanta probably the easiest place to fly to for those involved.

Keep in mind, this is not strictly an NCAA thing based in Indianapolis. They have committee members from San Diego, Atlanta, Florida, West Virginia, New York, San Francisco, Tennessee and more. Those members are lawyers, Athletic Directors, Former Heads of Military and more.

Just my $0.02
Thank you for your response!

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:28 am
by KUTradition

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:10 am
by NewtonHawk11
Forde such a bitch.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:29 am
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:47 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 3:06 pm NCAA lawyers getting opened today

I’m not sure I understand what the NCAA’s lawyers are even TRYING to say by that. Something along the lines of, “they’re not employees, because we say so, which makes them not employees”?
It's the "because it's always been that way" reasoning which to me is the dumbest reason to do anything.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:33 am
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:28 am seems likely to be related:

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2023/04 ... ncaa-panel
One of the least offensive pieces written by Forde on KU's case. Such a little twerp.

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:36 am
by jfish26
“Corruption cases?”

Re: F the NCAA

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:32 pm
by Sparko
jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:36 am “Corruption cases?”
Whoever signed Zion was going to be put under an intense microscope for corrupt practices given what the NCAA learned. And then there is KU.