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Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:07 am
by zsn
Feral wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:32 am People who sell guns occasionally, as a hobby and only attend guns shows as vendors occasionally, don't.
This means a guy who attends a gun show one afternoon (or not) and sells guns out in the parking lot out of his van has a carte blanche.

Thank YOU, NRA. And The Republican Party.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:16 am
by KUTradition
TDub wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:48 am
KUTradition wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:23 am
TDub wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:03 am Its the voice if someone who's had to take off work and ride a bus to get an ID. But its not hard. It's required to function in life in really any capacity.


how do you do anything without an ID?
just because it hasn’t been hard for you doesn’t mean that’s everyone’s experience

kids, jobs where it’s hard (or impossible) to get time off…and time off during the hours where the dmv is open (and enough time off to wait in line, if necessary), etc, etc

it’s also not just about IDs (which i generally do agree with), but also the closing of polling places, reductions in their hours and staff, reductions in ballot drop boxes, etc, etc

i really fail to understand why anyone that is truly interested in this being a representative democracy, being against (or ambivalent towards) the process being as easy as possible for ALL of our citizens to legally vote…not saying that’s how you feel necessarily, but it sure comes off that way
That's all fine, but the discussion isn't about polling places closing early or any of the other stuff...the discussion was IDs. If you dont have to have an ID to vote how do you control the process at all? How do you ensure the person is legally able to vote?

You need an ID to participate in society, in essentially any aspect. Requiring an ID to vote isn't so outtlandish, exclusive thing
again, i generally agree

but, if it’s gonna be mandatory, then it should be made easier (not more difficult) for citizens to get an ID…that’s my point

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... tification

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:20 am
by TDub
zsn wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:07 am
Feral wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:32 am People who sell guns occasionally, as a hobby and only attend guns shows as vendors occasionally, don't.
This means a guy who attends a gun show one afternoon (or not) and sells guns out in the parking lot out of his van has a carte blanche.

Thank YOU, NRA. And The Republican Party.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resour ... sfer-laws/

thats just untrue.

Oregon, Washington and California at least have even stricter laws than the federal regulations.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:39 am
by zsn
TDub wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:20 am
zsn wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:07 am
Feral wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:32 am People who sell guns occasionally, as a hobby and only attend guns shows as vendors occasionally, don't.
This means a guy who attends a gun show one afternoon (or not) and sells guns out in the parking lot out of his van has a carte blanche.

Thank YOU, NRA. And The Republican Party.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resour ... sfer-laws/

thats just untrue.

Oregon, Washington and California at least have even stricter laws than the federal regulations.
So, you could, in 47 States. And who knows maybe Puerto Rico, Guam and American Samoa.

Thank YOU, NRA.

PS: I thought you guys didn’t like States having their own gun laws……

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:46 am
by TDub
zsn wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:39 am
TDub wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:20 am
zsn wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:07 am

This means a guy who attends a gun show one afternoon (or not) and sells guns out in the parking lot out of his van has a carte blanche.

Thank YOU, NRA. And The Republican Party.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resour ... sfer-laws/

thats just untrue.

Oregon, Washington and California at least have even stricter laws than the federal regulations.
So, you could, in 47 States. And who knows maybe Puerto Rico, Guam and American Samoa.

Thank YOU, NRA.

PS: I thought you guys didn’t like States having their own gun laws……
no you doofus. Guess you didnt read. Those are the federal regulations. I said those 3 states (at least, juat off the top of my head that I know of) have more stringent regulations.

and what ya mean you guys?

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:48 am
by TDub
in oregon the only way a gun gets transferred without a background check and through an FFL dealer is if it is transferred to an immediate family member.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:05 am
by zsn
TDub wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:48 am in oregon the only way a gun gets transferred without a background check and through an FFL dealer is if it is transferred to an immediate family member.
Call me whatever name you want………but the bottom line is you could do whatever you want in Tennessee or Texas where the latest (that we know of) massacres happened.

Thank YOU, Republican Party?!?!?

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:12 am
by TDub
That's not how federal regulations work....but ok bud.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:24 am
by zsn
TDub wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:12 am That's not how federal regulations work....but ok bud.
The NRA wishes to acknowledge and appreciate your zealous support of our blatant disregard for the sanctity of life and the impunity with which we implement our callous ignorance thereof. Onwards zealous warriors.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:44 am
by Shirley
What a country! I can't keep up! Yay us! Why would we want to change anything?

At least two people are dead and four were injured after a 19-year-old allegedly opened fire at a Mississippi home early Sunday morning, police said.

Cameron Everest Brand was arrested and charged with homicide. The 19-year-old is being held without bond.

...Upon arrival, officers found a total of six victims all between the ages of 15 and 18, four of which were taken to trauma center hospitals in New Orleans and Slidell, Louisiana.

Three of the victims were in critical condition, while the three others were listed as being in stable but serious condition.

Police said later Sunday morning that two of the victims, a 16-year-old and an 18-year-old had died after receiving treatment at University Medical Center in New Orleans...

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:47 am
by defixione

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:48 am
by Shirley
zsn wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:24 am
TDub wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:12 am That's not how federal regulations work....but ok bud.
The NRA wishes to acknowledge and appreciate your zealous support of our blatant disregard for the sanctity of life and the impunity with which we implement our callous ignorance thereof. Onwards zealous warriors.
^^^

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 11:17 am
by jfish26
Seems like the good guys with guns have some ‘splainin to do.


Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 12:22 pm
by KUTradition
only in ‘murica do some consider books more dangerous than guns

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 3:58 pm
by Sparko
This is normal. Ball player shot standing in bullpen:

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/college-b ... d=98979045

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 4:05 pm
by KUTradition
that’s the risk of living in ‘murica these days

i blame randy

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 12:03 pm
by jfish26
Hearing reports of a mental health outbreak in Atlanta.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 12:41 pm
by jfish26
In an office building, so that will help narrow which specific mental illness caused this outbreak.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 2:25 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Medical Center.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/atlant ... index.html

I'm supposed to go to a Cardiologist appointment tomorrow.
Do I need to wear Kevlar or bring a gun to feel safe in the doctor's office?

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 2:53 pm
by Sparko
With. Without. It can't be helped if there's a lot of it about.