Kansas Crimson

TDub wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 8:26 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 6:42 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:41 pm

more proof that there is no choice.

One "option" is unelecteable piece of trash. That leaves us with 1 pre approved person as our "choices". Awesome.

No matter how you present it, the choice is nothing but a word for you to feel better about yourself for not checking the box of a lunatic. That doesn't make it a "choice". Real choices would involve actual candidates and having to think about what you arr selecting, bot blindly checking the box of the guy that wears the correct color ribbon.

No disagreement in principle. I don’t, however, think a protest write-in is the correct move at this time. I think there is value in each and every person who considers Trump to be an unelectable piece of trash casting their vote in the one way that is a clear rebuke of that piece of trash.

didn't say it was but its the heart of the argument that's silly to me.

Not saying you, but many responses in this thread speaking of how we do have choices and what are we going to do about it..

- of course you have a choice, but you have to vote for Biden or you're enabling a traitor

-you have the primaries to exercise your choices.....as long as your choice is to vote for Biden!

- ok, I'm gonna vote for a third party. Oh no, you can't do that, that's the same as voting for Trump!

- ok I'm gonna write in a candidate. Oh no! you can't do that either.


Ok so how exactly is it that we can "do something about it" if the only things we theoretically can do (even if these theoretical options are also null and void because the lobby purse strings pull the numbers for candidacy) we actually cant do. It's all bullshit, burn it to the ground. We have no choice and no say, regardless of the lip service paid to the constituency.

bread and circus.....with overpriced, mass manufactured welfare bread and a circus we can't afford even if we had any desire to be "entertained".

broken. all of it. I don't have answers, but I do know the last decade has made people stupider, less amiable and turned once tolerable lack of choices into gangland conflict. I've never liked people, I especially don't like people now. I do not support what either party is doing *yes the bloods are currently significantly worse in most regards. But, both sides need to calm down on control. The fight for control of citizens every move is....unacceptable.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 9:08 am at least he seems to actually be doing something, rather than just message board activism

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am Serious question:

Is it better to be an activist, or to be a protestor?

Consider how those in power do really nothing to earn our votes, but are trying so doggedly to counter these protests.

Trying to decide if that says something about where we should concentrate our political energy.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am Serious question:

Is it better to be an activist, or to be a protestor?

Consider how those in power do really nothing to earn our votes, but are trying so doggedly to counter these protests.

Trying to decide if that says something about where we should concentrate our political energy.

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:24 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am Serious question:

Is it better to be an activist, or to be a protestor?

Consider how those in power do really nothing to earn our votes, but are trying so doggedly to counter these protests.

Trying to decide if that says something about where we should concentrate our political energy.

Making absolute statements like that only serves to call whatever credibility you might have into question. Contrary to your allegation, there are plenty of people putting in the unglamorous but necessary work to try and improve our lives and earn our votes. And for you sweep to them all into the same trash bin with the candidates that don't make any effort, says more about you than it does about them.

What due diligence, exactly, have you done on a granular, local level in the past, to be able to make such a blanket statement?

I'm lazy, I don't really want to, but tomorrow afternoon I'm going to a meeting of like-minded people to help decide which candidates we want to throw our support behind precisely because some of them do plenty to earn our votes.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 9:01 am Nothing like twocoach telling people to quit bitching while simultaneously bitching in various threads.

He's on a roll.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 3:33 pm I get that you think your line is so funny like you have me in some witty zinger that you had to repeat it twice but it's actually childish and simple. But that is all I expect from you.

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 5:00 pm Where's the Politics forum "Petri dish" thread?

With no alternatives, I guess our future is going to be replete with heretofore preventable infectious disease outbreaks. I'm retired, and even I never saw a case of diphtheria or tetanus. Lord help us, because when this becomes the law of the land, we're going to need it:

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 5:00 pm Where's the Politics forum "Petri dish" thread?

With no alternatives, I guess our future is going to be replete with heretofore preventable infectious disease outbreaks. I'm retired, and even I never saw a case of diphtheria or tetanus. Lord help us, because when this becomes the law of the land, we're going to need it: