Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:35 am

Walrus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:38 pm After re-watching a few parts of the debate again, I think Biden won simply because he did not look as bad as Trump. The expectations we so low that all people really hoped for was a Biden that could speak and not lose his train of thought. Trump did say some good things that were very accurate, but his demeanor turned a lot of people off. He was right on about law enforcement and the riots. He made some dumb mistakes when he would not address his taxes head on. He should have just said "yeah, I paid $750 because of my depreciating real estate, etc..." Instead, he dodges it. Biden also wouldn't answer questions about the supreme court, new green deal, etc. But all in all, Biden did come off a little better, simply because Trump looked too aggressive. The moderator also did a poor job. They need a mute button on the mic, for sure.

But does this really change anything? I doubt it. I still think Trump is going to win, simply because there just isn't any enthusiasm for Biden. Michael Moore recently said, "there's a lot of enthusiasm for Trump". Either way, we lose, but Biden's tax proposals would turn this severe recession into a severe depression.

Not sure what you base your "there just isn't any enthusiasm for Biden" comment on. The enthusiasm to remove this piece of shit Trump from office is "enthusiasm for Biden". I think we're going to see huge volumes of voting this year.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:34 am No, they wouldn’t.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:45 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:34 am No, they wouldn’t.

A conservative talking point since forever has been that the lib candidate will arbitrarily raise taxes, cuz that’s just what libs do.

If there is any rhyme or reason to libs raising taxes, it’s to wreck the economy, and to spite the working man.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:00 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:45 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:34 am No, they wouldn’t.

A conservative talking point since forever has been that the lib candidate will arbitrarily raise taxes, cuz that’s just what libs do.

If there is any rhyme or reason to libs raising taxes, it’s to wreck the economy, and to spite the working man.

It's absurd. The rich are paying historically low tax levels. Raising taxes at higher income levels - or better yet, simply adding more and higher tax brackets - is eminently reasonable and justifiable.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:19 am It’s kind of surprising the Merican populist movement doesn’t speak up against it more.

We could have a balanced budget and lower taxes for the middle class, except that the lobster types are too busy boogeymanning other demographics...

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:34 am No, they wouldn’t.

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:17 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:34 am No, they wouldn’t.

You don't mind paying 60-70% of your money to the governments?

But also, this would be proposed at the worst possible time in history. This is definitely not the time to raise taxes. It's the best possible time to reduce government that we don't need.

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:17 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:34 am No, they wouldn’t.

You don't mind paying 60-70% of your money to the governments?

But also, this would be proposed at the worst possible time in history. This is definitely not the time to raise taxes. It's the best possible time to reduce government that we don't need.

Washington — The commission that oversees the general election presidential debates said Wednesday it will be making changes to the format of the remaining two debates. One key change it plans to implement: Cutting off the microphones of President Trump and Joe Biden if they break the rules, according to a source familiar with the commission's deliberations. The plans have not been finalized and the commission is still considering how it would carry out the plan.

The Commission on Presidential Debates is responding to Tuesday's face-off between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, which was marred by frequent interruptions by the president and mud-slinging.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:05 pm Biden's plan still doesn't target the super wealthy. Jeff Bezos' taxable income is something like $80,000 and he's the wealthiest guy on the planet.

I'm fine with having another tax bracket that starts at >$400,000 for individual income, but let's not pretend like this is a tax increase on the super-wealthy, it's a tax increase on the kinda rich. And, as we've talked about, there's a HUGE difference.

NiceDC wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:56 am https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/presid ... hones/#app

Debates commission plans to cut off mics if Trump or Biden break rules

Washington — The commission that oversees the general election presidential debates said Wednesday it will be making changes to the format of the remaining two debates. One key change it plans to implement: Cutting off the microphones of President Trump and Joe Biden if they break the rules, according to a source familiar with the commission's deliberations. The plans have not been finalized and the commission is still considering how it would carry out the plan.

The Commission on Presidential Debates is responding to Tuesday's face-off between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, which was marred by frequent interruptions by the president and mud-slinging.