Kansas Crimson

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 pm I side with the states right to choose. If Floridans do not like it, they can move to NY or California. Those businesses can choose to leave for another state if they want.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:03 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:52 am Michigan is the best. The trees are budding. Flowers are popping. Grass is greening. It is 75 degrees outside right now. Spring sports are in full swing. Boats are getting in the water. Most every person I know has had at least 1 shot of the vaccine. Many have had both.

It is a glorious time to be in Michigan. It's time to live again.

14% fully vaccinated and highest rate of new cases per day and going up.

Shit hole. I hope it falls off into the great lakes.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 pm I side with the states right to choose. If Floridans do not like it, they can move to NY or California. Those businesses can choose to leave for another state if they want.

Ok.

So you don't know what you were arguing for or against here, and just got triggered into spurting out talking points.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 pm I side with the states right to choose. If Floridans do not like it, they can move to NY or California. Those businesses can choose to leave for another state if they want.

Ok.

So you don't know what you were arguing for or against here, and just got triggered into spurting out talking points.

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:10 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 pm I side with the states right to choose. If Floridans do not like it, they can move to NY or California. Those businesses can choose to leave for another state if they want.

Ok.

So you don't know what you were arguing for or against here, and just got triggered into spurting out talking points.

I'm not the one blaming "the party of Trump" for the vaccine passports, especially since Trump has been telling all his voters to get the vax. I didn't want to be mean, but that kind of poor argument usually comes from our friend with a Phd and not someone who claims to work in law. Some things are not political like you want them to be.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 pm I side with the states right to choose. If Floridans do not like it, they can move to NY or California. Those businesses can choose to leave for another state if they want.

Ok.

So you don't know what you were arguing for or against here, and just got triggered into spurting out talking points.

Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:14 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 pm I side with the states right to choose. If Floridans do not like it, they can move to NY or California. Those businesses can choose to leave for another state if they want.

Ok.

So you don't know what you were arguing for or against here, and just got triggered into spurting out talking points.

It's frightening - not that Walrus specifically thinks this way, but the fact that it's becoming the mainstream Republican view it seems.
Telling businesses what they can and can't do = American.
Allowing the free market to be free = CCP.

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:10 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 pm I side with the states right to choose. If Floridans do not like it, they can move to NY or California. Those businesses can choose to leave for another state if they want.

Ok.

So you don't know what you were arguing for or against here, and just got triggered into spurting out talking points.

I'm not the one blaming "the party of Trump" for the vaccine passports, especially since Trump has been telling all his voters to get the vax. I didn't want to be mean, but that kind of poor argument usually comes from our friend with a Phd and not someone who claims to work in law. Some things are not political like you want them to be.

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:22 pm I get what Fish is saying. He is saying that if I support private business right to choose, then they should not be required to allow everyone in. I would support this in most cases, but there are some exceptions. The problem is that you have some private businesses that are monopolies. What do you do in those situations? And then what happens if every car insurance company decides not to let you buy insurance? I would argue it's better to not allow businesses to require a vaccine passport than it would be to allow them to.

Speaking of insurance, some life insurance companies will not cover people now who have taken the vax. They don't want the risk of the experimental things as their liability.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:22 pm I get what Fish is saying. He is saying that if I support private business right to choose, then they should not be required to allow everyone in. I would support this in most cases, but there are some exceptions. The problem is that you have some private businesses that are monopolies. What do you do in those situations? And then what happens if every car insurance company decides not to let you buy insurance? I would argue it's better to not allow businesses to require a vaccine passport than it would be to allow them to.

Speaking of insurance, some life insurance companies will not cover people now who have taken the vax. They don't want the risk of the experimental things as their liability.

I'm not sure what the Covid vaccine has to do with car insurance, but I'm sure it's just a matter of not having gone down the right youtube rabbit hole.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:28 pm I actually support the state's right to choose in this instance ( allowing a business to force proof of a vaccine ).
I don't think it should be a federal mandate.

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:17 am That's what they always do -- try to discredit someone so people will not consider the content and so people will not think for themselves.

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:22 pm I get what Fish is saying. He is saying that if I support private business right to choose, then they should not be required to allow everyone in. I would support this in most cases, but there are some exceptions. The problem is that you have some private businesses that are monopolies. What do you do in those situations? And then what happens if every car insurance company decides not to let you buy insurance? I would argue it's better to not allow businesses to require a vaccine passport than it would be to allow them to.

Speaking of insurance, some life insurance companies will not cover people now who have taken the vax. They don't want the risk of the experimental things as their liability.

japhy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:33 pm

Walrus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:17 am That's what they always do -- try to discredit someone so people will not consider the content and so people will not think for themselves.

Here's the problem for rubes like you, the technical content is so far over your head, you have no idea how much bullshit you are swallowing under the ruse of "common sense". The quack's flattery that you would understand their twisted content that confirms the biases you have been fed is what makes it so appealing to you I suppose.

You are not "thinking for yourself", you are being led by the nose by quacks at every turn. You embrace the fact that their ideas and your belief in them are contrary to actual established experts and actual facts as a badge of honor. You seem to actively seek out quacks to follow.

Your incessant braying on about how much you know about things you don't know about should make me see you as many seemingly do, as an insufferable self-deluding twat.

But I find your persona endearing. You are a caricature of every human personality trait I loathe.

That's what I love about you Wally.

You are the embodiment of much that is horrifying in our society and you have taken that to the level of performative art. A crude and awkward art, but that is folk art at it's best. You are dazzlingly erratic. Your every proclamation reduces trumpist populism to it's laughable kernel.

Seriously Bitch, you must come to Solstice and we must have beers together. You are the fuckin bomb.

I want to hear everything you think you know about everything you don't know.