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Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:50 pm
by jhawks99
One of my 3 pairs of shoes ate wingtip. The brown ones, I think.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:03 pm
by TDub
ive worn dress shoes exactly twice in my life and absolutely hates it both times.

my sister's wedding, and my buddies wedding.

even when I worked that miserable job at Enterprise I ignored their dress codes. But, I didn't suck (and im fairly certain a most badicslly trained golden retriever coukd do the job if it ciukd see over the dash), so I didn't get fired, just warned repeatedly. That mercifully ended after a few months when I quit. I learned then that I hate pressure sales, reinforced my hate for people, and realized I was better off avoiding both in future endeavors.

They called me back for months asking if I wanted to return. Nah, no thank you.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:16 pm
by DCHawk1
Shirley wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:23 pm Full disclosure: On game days members of the BB team had to dress up and wear a tie. (In 7th grade I didn't know how to tie a tie, so I used a clip-on.)

I still remember my first time. The team was in the locker room getting dressed and one of the other guards on the team lifted his foot up and put it on the bench close to me to tie his shoe. It was a wing tip. I'd never seen such an ugly men's shoe before. Then I became best friends with a guy whose dad was the head pro at a public golf course near me and for the next 5 summers, all I ever saw at the course was wingtip golf shoes.

And they're still ugly.
It depends on the wingtip. Too much broguing makes for an ugly shoe.

These, however, are smokin'...

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Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:30 pm
by Shirley
I wasn't clear on broguing before, but you're right.

Those aren't bad at all.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:35 pm
by TDub
I dont even know what language you guys are speaking right now. Broguing? forget Joe Biden, I don't think my economy is good enough for Broguing. whatever the hell that is.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:10 pm
by jhawks99
TDub wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:35 pm I dont even know what language you guys are speaking right now. Broguing? forget Joe Biden, I don't think my economy is good enough for Broguing. whatever the hell that is.
^^^^

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:16 am
by Shirley
broguing
noun
brogu·​ing ˈbrōgiŋ
plural -s
: an ornamentation of shoes employing heavy perforations and pinkings

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:20 am
by ousdahl
Democrats urge Biden administration to deschedule marijuana

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna136241

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:40 am
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:49 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:41 pm
jhawks99 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:33 pm I read where Taylor Swift has rigged the SB for the Chiefs to get Joe re-elected. Not sure how that works, but I like it.
Oh great, thanks for this. Kraken is unleashed.
Fox News hosted a discussion with a former FBI agent asking: “Is Taylor Swift a Pentagon asset?"

A Trump media booster, Ms Laura Loomer, told her more than 800,000 followers on X, the former Twitter, that “The Democrats’ Taylor Swift election interference psyop is happening in the open.”

Vivek Ramaswamy, a failed Republican presidential candidate now fully behind Trump’s bid for a second term, suggested there is a plot to boost Mr Biden through a faked Swift-Kelce relationship and a rigged Chiefs victory in the Super Bowl.

“I wonder who’s going to win the Super Bowl next month. And I wonder if there’s a major presidential endorsement coming from an artificially culturally propped-up couple,” he wrote on X. “Just some wild speculation over here, let’s see how it ages over the next 8 months.”

A pro-Trump broadcast personality, Mike Crispi, just flat out said it out loud: “EVERYONE knows Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce is fake and the Super Bowl is rigged. You’re a whacko at this point if you DON’T believe it.”

What I like about the whole thing is that these mouth breathers have to cheer for a team from ultra-liberal San Francisco to get the Chiefs and Swift to lose.
I just realized that what’s happening here is that MAGA is setting up to use Taylor Swift as the excuse for Trump getting stomped again (sort of like the examples you can find around here of our MAGA friends blaming Covid and remote voting and stuff for 2020).

Anything - ANYTHING - except admitting and solving the real problem.

Which, of course, is sort of their thing; see guns.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:10 am
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:20 am Democrats urge Biden administration to deschedule marijuana

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna136241
It's time to get that done. Marijuana should be treated as no differently than alcohol other than that you still should not be allowed to smoke it in enclosed public places such as restaurants etc.... like the rules are for smoking cigarettes.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:18 am
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:03 pm ive worn dress shoes exactly twice in my life and absolutely hates it both times.

my sister's wedding, and my buddies wedding.

even when I worked that miserable job at Enterprise I ignored their dress codes. But, I didn't suck (and im fairly certain a most badicslly trained golden retriever coukd do the job if it ciukd see over the dash), so I didn't get fired, just warned repeatedly. That mercifully ended after a few months when I quit. I learned then that I hate pressure sales, reinforced my hate for people, and realized I was better off avoiding both in future endeavors.

They called me back for months asking if I wanted to return. Nah, no thank you.
My goal is to wear dress shoes as little as possible in my life. I am at the "suits are only needed at weddings and funerals" point in my life so it's working out well so far. I saw no reason to wear uncomfortable shoes before my foot was all jacked up. Now I can barely stand to wear comfortable shoes for very long.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:19 am
by jfish26
https://www.publicnotice.co/p/taylor-sw ... e-it-kelce

Why Trumpers are losing it over Taylor Swift

Swift goes to football games to support her boyfriend, shattering MAGA brains.
MAGA this week at last found its true, final, most hated enemy. Not Barack Obama. Not Hilary Clinton. Not Joe Biden. Not even Hunter Biden. No, the epitome of everything Trumpers set themselves against is not a politician at all, but that nefarious pop singer/songwriter, Taylor Swift.

Swift is not running for election and is not really a political figure. Thus targeting her seems at best pointless and at worst counterproductive for a political movement.

But the conservative media marketplace often has different incentives than the Republican Party — which is part of why the Republican Party is such a mess. Swift’s music now effectively functions as the soundtrack for the GOP crawling into a dumpster and setting itself on fire.

Taylor Swift (The GOP Version)

Why have Republicans chosen this moment for their much-more-than-two-minutes Swift hate? Well, this week Swift released a provocative album titled The GOP Sucks and So Does Donald Trump.

Ha ha. No, she didn’t do anything like that at all. Instead, her sin was … attending a football game. Last Sunday, she went to see the Kansas City Chiefs/Baltimore Ravens matchup because she’s dating Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce — who has been reviled by the right for making ads for the Pfizer covid vaccine and (gulp) alleged woke beer brand Bud Light. The Chiefs won, giving them a berth in the Super Bowl and destroying right-wing talking points about Swift being the Chiefs’ Yoko Ono.

During the game, cameras kept panning to catch Swift’s reaction, which makes sense since she’s a massively famous pop star and her presence at NFL games this season is driving huge TV ratings.

Swift didn’t ham it up for the cameras to try to make herself a focus of attention. Nonetheless, her presence annoyed right-wing punditry, which saw Swift and collectively started gibbering and snorting like rabid warthogs.

“End Wokeness,” a large right-wing account that Elon Musk is fond of, tweeted that “What’s happening with Taylor Swift is not organic and natural. It’s an op.”

Washed up GOP primary contender Vivek Ramaswamy doubled-down on that barmy intuition. He suggested the Super Bowl is going to be rigged in favor of the Chiefs in order to boost a Taylor Swift endorsement of Democratic President Joe Biden.

As this newsletter is being readied for publication late Tuesday, examples of right-wing figures revealing that Swift has given them a terminal case of brainworms are so plentiful that it would be impossible to cite them all.

Newsmax host Greg Kelly went as far Monday as to accuse Swifties of “elevating her to an idol … and you’re not supposed to do that. In fact, if you look it up in the Bible, it’s a sin!” Another Newsmax host dismissed the Swift-Kelce relationship as “fake.”

Meanwhile, one of Fox News’ “hard news” shows devoted a segment to attacking Swift, her fans, and Kelce, who a commentator derisively referred to as “Mr. Pfizer.”

But that was nowhere near as wild as a segment earlier this month during which Fox News host Jesse Waters described Swift a “Pentagon asset” developed at a NATO meeting and deployed to help Democrats.

I can’t believe this needs to be said, but Taylor Swift is not a Pentagon asset. She is not an op. She is not inorganic. She’s a successful pop singer and people pay attention to her because SHE’S A MASSIVELY SUCCESSFUL POP SINGER, OMFG, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?

Sorry. Deep breaths.

Taylor Swift is very popular

As I was saying, people want to see and talk about Taylor Swift because she’s an extremely popular singer, songwriter, and performer—now in a high profile relationship with a very well-known celebrity football player. Right-wing media pretends there’s a mystery. But there really isn’t one.

So, why does MAGAs want to pretend Swift’s existence is a deadly and convoluted plot? Part of the animosity is that the formerly apolitical singer has made her partisan preferences clear. In 2018 she endorsed two Democratic candidates in Tennessee. She’s also spoken in favor of LGBT rights, and has become a very effective advocate for voter registration. In 2020, she endorsed Biden, and the White House is (reasonably) hoping she’ll endorse him in 2024 as well. (The prospect of Swift again endorsing Biden has Trump grousing and MAGA elites plotting a “holy war” against her, according to Rolling Stone.)

Republicans loathe successful single women, especially if they’re Democrats. So it’s not exactly a surprise that they hate Swift.

But the right hates lots of people. The reason they want to hate and talk about Taylor Swift in particular is exactly the same reason everyone else wants to talk about Taylor Swift. When you are extremely popular, articles and news reports about you (like this one!) are also likely to be very popular.

Swift was one of the most well-known people on earth before she met Kelce. Now she’s even more famous. If you post a tweet making outrageous claims about Taylor Swift, or film a segment making even more outrageous claims about Taylor Swift, you are likely to attract a lot of potentially monetizable eyeballs.

The celebrity ate the party

Attracting monetizable eyeballs is great when you’re a media personality. Politics, though, is not really about monetizable eyeballs and hate clicks. On the contrary, if you’re a GOP strategist, having your party rush to associate itself with hating on Taylor Swift doesn’t make much sense.

Swift has large numbers of very enthusiastic fans who are not going to vote for an anti-Taylor Swift party. But more than that, most normal people do not see Swift as a partisan figure. They see her as a pop star. If you start talking about how Taylor Swift is actually a psy op, people who are not already your committed partisans are going to think you are a ridiculous and dangerous crank. In fact, even some of your committed partisans are likely to think that.

Because (and I am trying not to resort to all caps again here) Taylor Swift is not some sort of abominable engineered NATO superweapon. For pity’s sake.

Right-wing media sees Swift as a great bête noire. For the GOP as a party which theoretically wants to win elections, though, choosing elaborately nonsensical culture war battles with popular celebrities has no real upside. You gain no voters, alienate die-hard Swifties forever, and make a lot of people potentially on the fence think that you’ve lost a whole shelfful of gourds.

There’s a good argument that the GOP has for some time been out of gourds, in no small part because right-wing media ate them. Republican politicians today often seem more focused on media hits, and the consequent fundraising bonanza, than they are on passing conservative policies.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz may be AWOL when his state suffers a national disaster, but he never misses an opportunity to promote his podcast. Florida Republican congressman Matt Gaetz — a key figure in this session’s rolling leadership fiasco — has introduced virtually no bills of significance. But he’s on Newsmax constantly, and a CNN analysis found 160,000 articles about him, in comparison to 347 about a congressman in Gaetz’s neighboring district. Blowing up the party is good for business—and the business is, not politics, but right-wing media.

The best and most virulently bellowing example of right-wing media steamrolling GOP priorities is former president and leading GOP presidential contender Donald Trump himself. Trump, a real estate heir, has structured his entire life for decades as an exercise in self-promotion, putting his name in big letters on hotels, resorts, ice rinks, and even steaks. Pre-presidency, he was most famous as a reality television star.

It’s not a coincidence, given his instincts, that Trump has attacked Swift himself. He was angered when Swift won Time Magazine’s 2023 Person of the Year, since he wanted to win it himself. With his usual class, he’s also said that Swift and Kelce will "most likely not" enjoy life together. (Trump has of course been indicted for 2016 payments made to adult actress Stormy Daniels during the presidential campaign; he was trying to prevent her from revealing that Trump was unfaithful to his wife, Melania.)

Trump’s celebrity gave his 2016 campaign a major boost. The networks loved him for much the same reason as they love Swift — famous people are famous and attract eyeballs. He got $5 billion in free media from both right-wing and mainstream networks, which gave him a significant advantage in the Republican primary. In a real sense, media chose the GOP’s candidate for the party based on entertainment value.

The GOP did narrowly win the presidency with Trump in 2016. But their less and less entertaining celebrity candidate led them to election defeats in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022 and 2023. That’s not a great record, even if you ignore Trump’s effort to block the rightful transfer of power after his 2020 loss, or the fact that a jury just ordered him to pay $83 million to a woman he was found liable of assaulting, or any of the other numerous catastrophic moral failures which are now pancaked onto the GOP like Trump’s orange makeup.

“Don’t get involved in politics!”

Fox News host Jeanine Pirro, also eager to make money off of Taylor Swift’s name, joined in the pile on, giving the singer some advice on Monday.

“Don’t get involved in politics!” Pirro blustered. “We don’t want to see you there!”

The funny thing about Pirro’s recommendation is that it could as easily be directed at that tiresome celebrity Donald Trump — or at right-wing media as a whole.

Swift makes the occasional endorsement or tells people to go vote; she’s participating in the political process, not driving it.

But conservative media (dis)infotainment has insinuated itself into the GOP so thoroughly that you can barely tell one from the other. The Taylor Swift crisis is every bit as fictional as the “border crisis,” or as the supposed crisis of election integrity which Trump used as the pretense for his coup attempt. Wild nonsense which attracts eyeballs has become the GOP brand.

Spewing venom at random passersby is, again, not a great way to garner votes. That’s one reason the GOP keeps losing elections. Will they continue their streak in 2024? Even Taylor Swift can’t see the future. But we do know that in general, people who pick a fight with her don’t win.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:30 am
by twocoach
The more idiotic the conspiracies and the more venomous the attacks on Taylor Swift, the more the GOP fucks themselves with the younger generation of voters. Keep it up, morons.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:47 am
by MICHHAWK
i like taylor swift. but. she will have no impact on how i vote in november.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:55 am
by ousdahl
I wonder how many more celebrity endorsements Biden will peddle, and what effect it’ll have.

I suppose it very well may be a better strategy than attracting voter support by just, you know, doing anything to substantively benefit the American people.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:00 am
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:55 am I wonder how many more celebrity endorsements Biden will peddle, and what effect it’ll have.

I suppose it very well may be a better strategy than attracting voter support by just, you know, doing anything to substantively benefit the American people.
Kind of a weird way to look at it. This line from the post seems like the right response:
Swift makes the occasional endorsement or tells people to go vote; she’s participating in the political process, not driving it.

But conservative media (dis)infotainment has insinuated itself into the GOP so thoroughly that you can barely tell one from the other.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:00 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:47 am i like taylor swift. but. she will have no impact on how i vote in november.
The MAGA panic over Taylor Swift is not about your vote.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:02 am
by ousdahl
twocoach wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:10 am
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:20 am Democrats urge Biden administration to deschedule marijuana

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna136241
It's time to get that done. Marijuana should be treated as no differently than alcohol other than that you still should not be allowed to smoke it in enclosed public places such as restaurants etc.... like the rules are for smoking cigarettes.
Right?

This very well could be Biden’s trick up his sleeve. Pretty sure it would have popular support.

But rather than actually doing something, I’m concern Biden will limit it to only the rhetoric of doing something.

I saw one criticism of a speech last weekend in which Biden claimed to have expunged criminal records and released prisoners for weed, when he didn’t.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:02 am
by MICHHAWK
weaponizeing her is brilliant. she is the most famous person on earth.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:20 pm
by Overlander
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:02 am weaponizeing her is brilliant. she is the most famous person on earth.
Just how many fucking boogeymen are in the heads of right-wingers?