Kansas Crimson

TDub wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 11:57 am

Sparko wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 9:21 am

TDub wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 2:53 pm we had flying monkeys? did you think wizard of Oz was a documentary sparko?

I guess the children in cages were rounded up a different way.

I think instead of a trump Biden debate we should have a sparko Mich debate and have everyone submit guesses as to what the hell you're actually talking about

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 12:14 pm i don't know what the polls are saying. i don't care what the polls are saying.

i assume if you are bloviating about them. they are not in favor. there is time to turn it around.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 11:58 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 11:40 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 11:33 am

As someone who tends to look for ulterior motives in how the media covers things, you might go back and read what I quoted more closely.

Maybe I should just ask - what ulterior motive/s do you perceive here?

I think it's important to understand that there are at least TWO different constituencies within mainstream media that are served by the "race" being portrayed as closer than it likely is: (1) the constituency that desperately WANTS Biden to win (and does not want a single Biden voter to sit out on the assumption that the race is not close), and (2) the constituency that desperately wants as many eyeballs as possible, for as long as possible.

There is some, but not perfect, overlap between these groups.

But again, a Fox poll showing the race as essentially tied means, in reality, Trump is in pretty deep shit. That can change. But I do not think the characterization of the actual state of the race at the moment is very accurate.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 1:46 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 11:58 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 11:40 am

Maybe I should just ask - what ulterior motive/s do you perceive here?

I think it's important to understand that there are at least TWO different constituencies within mainstream media that are served by the "race" being portrayed as closer than it likely is: (1) the constituency that desperately WANTS Biden to win (and does not want a single Biden voter to sit out on the assumption that the race is not close), and (2) the constituency that desperately wants as many eyeballs as possible, for as long as possible.

There is some, but not perfect, overlap between these groups.

But again, a Fox poll showing the race as essentially tied means, in reality, Trump is in pretty deep shit. That can change. But I do not think the characterization of the actual state of the race at the moment is very accurate.

Good analysis.

I agree that much of it is eyeballs. The media so desperately wants a dramatic neck-and-neck race to the finish to keep the folks tuned in.

I also agree that the constituency that wants Biden to win doesn’t want any potential Biden voters to sit out.

I just think it’s kind of a rotten strategy, tho.

Rather than continuing the course of little more than, “BuT TrUmP!!!,” I think it would be more effective to implement a strategy of actually pressuring Biden to actually win over more potential Biden voters.

I think the concern about Biden voters staying home is valid. I just think they may be at least as likely to stay home cuz of disillusionment with Biden, than cuz of simply assuming the race isn’t that close.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 2:53 pm minus peter doocy. the mainstream media has been fluffing old uncle for 4+ years. they couldn't be easier on him if they tried.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 3:06 pm old uncles handlers won't let him talk to the media. old uncles handlers filter his questions so as to only allow favorables. if they don't like the question, you don't get to ask.

old uncle hasn't been in the fire for 4+ years. he has been mollycoddled.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 3:28 pmEw

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 3:46 pm that Caldwell-pope girl that runs the press briefings won’t field any question that don’t start with “I love uncle joe, can you explain how you love him.”

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 8:32 am https://www.reuters.com/world/us/donald ... 024-05-17/

"Some of Donald Trump's allies are assembling proposals to curtail the Justice Department's independence and turn the nation's top law enforcement body into an attack dog for conservative causes, nine people involved in the effort told Reuters.

If successful, the overhaul could represent one of the most consequential actions of a second Trump presidency given the Justice Department's role in protecting democratic institutions and upholding the rule of law."

Anyone who thinks this election is just about "my opinion or yours" isn't paying attention. It is not TDS in saying that Trump wants to fundamentally dismantle our system for his own benefit and turn us more into a system run like Russia and North Korea.