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Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 5:38 pm
by Shirley
dolomite wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 5:12 pm So it comes down to mental illness. No one in their right mind would want to do a mass shooting. In a perfect world and we had a choice to have either no mentally ill people (through treatment plans) or no guns, the wise choice would be IMO no mentally ill people.
I know…dream on.
So, your argument is that other countries where this doesn't happen don't have "mental illness".

Have I got that right?

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 6:13 pm
by jfish26
dolomite wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 5:12 pm So it comes down to mental illness. No one in their right mind would want to do a mass shooting. In a perfect world and we had a choice to have either no mentally ill people (through treatment plans) or no guns, the wise choice would be IMO no mentally ill people.
I know…dream on.
What's "it"? The gun violence problem? I would say that the gun violence problem has many contributing factors, but the SINGLE common, knowable, tangible thread among all mass shootings - every last one - is...the guns!

It's. The. Fucking. Guns.

Anyone who says different is selling something.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
by dolomite
Feral wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 5:38 pm
dolomite wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 5:12 pm So it comes down to mental illness. No one in their right mind would want to do a mass shooting. In a perfect world and we had a choice to have either no mentally ill people (through treatment plans) or no guns, the wise choice would be IMO no mentally ill people.
I know…dream on.
So, your argument is that other countries where this doesn't happen don't have "mental illness".

Have I got that right?
My argument is that mentally disturbed individuals commit the crime of a single or mass murder(s). I don’t know of countries that are free of mental illnesses and where homicides do not occur.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 10:28 am
by Shirley
dolomite wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
Feral wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 5:38 pm
dolomite wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 5:12 pm So it comes down to mental illness. No one in their right mind would want to do a mass shooting. In a perfect world and we had a choice to have either no mentally ill people (through treatment plans) or no guns, the wise choice would be IMO no mentally ill people.
I know…dream on.
So, your argument is that other countries where this doesn't happen don't have "mental illness".

Have I got that right?
My argument is that mentally disturbed individuals commit the crime of a single or mass murder(s). I don’t know of countries that are free of mental illnesses and where homicides do not occur.
It took you 2 days to come up with that?

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 10:41 am
by dolomite
Feral wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:28 am
dolomite wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:24 am
Feral wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 5:38 pm

So, your argument is that other countries where this doesn't happen don't have "mental illness".

Have I got that right?
My argument is that mentally disturbed individuals commit the crime of a single or mass murder(s). I don’t know of countries that are free of mental illnesses and where homicides do not occur.
It took you 2 days to come up with that?
Been busy with more important stuff.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 7:32 pm
by randylahey

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 10:26 pm
by zsn
I hate it when I go to a mall or the movies and mass-obesity breaks out!

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 12:37 am
by Overlander
Like the trauma-bond that can only occur when folks have been in line for 1 hour only to discover that Panda Express has run out of Orange Chicken.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 8:49 am
by jfish26
zsn wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:26 pm I hate it when I go to a mall or the movies and mass-obesity breaks out!
Someone go do an obesity heat map, overlaid with a Trump voting heat map.

I make this point not to call Trump supporters fat. But instead as yet another example of the people who would benefit MOST from stronger public health policy and services somehow having been convinced that government is evil.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 9:05 am
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 8:49 am
zsn wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:26 pm I hate it when I go to a mall or the movies and mass-obesity breaks out!
Someone go do an obesity heat map, overlaid with a Trump voting heat map.

I make this point not to call Trump supporters fat. But instead as yet another example of the people who would benefit MOST from stronger public health policy and services somehow having been convinced that government is evil.
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html

Yep.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 9:06 am
by twocoach

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 6:46 pm
by KUTradition

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 7:50 pm
by randylahey

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 8:12 pm
by defixione
You know Randy, if you really believed this shit, you wouldn't have to post it every day to convince yourself.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:59 pm
by Overlander
randylahey wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 7:50 pm
Pure bullshit.

But, you know that

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 4:46 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
A person with an IQ over 70 should realize that sugar coated shit is still shit.
I have a strong feeling randy doesn't understand the definition of Constitutional Carry.
Regardless, I would like randy to answer what the homicide rates per 100,000 citizens are in
Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, Oklahoma, and Texas compared to all 50 states.
I could be wrong but I believe each of those states are in the top 20 (or at least top 25).
At least 2 if not 3 or 4 of those states are in the top 5.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:57 pm
by KUTradition
KUTradition wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 6:46 pm available on Hulu:

https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64082690?ref_=nws_nwr_li#
1 year ago today, and some of those coward cops still remain employed

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 7:13 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:57 pm
KUTradition wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 6:46 pm available on Hulu:

https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64082690?ref_=nws_nwr_li#
1 year ago today, and some of those coward cops still remain employed


The point isn’t to dunk on law enforcement. The point is that we have willingly walked a path to where law enforcement is goddamn TERRIFIED to enforce the goddamn laws. Too goddamn TERRIFIED to protect and serve.

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:10 am
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:13 pm
KUTradition wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:57 pm
KUTradition wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 6:46 pm available on Hulu:

https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64082690?ref_=nws_nwr_li#
1 year ago today, and some of those coward cops still remain employed


The point isn’t to dunk on law enforcement. The point is that we have willingly walked a path to where law enforcement is goddamn TERRIFIED to enforce the goddamn laws. Too goddamn TERRIFIED to protect and serve.
there’s a scene in documentary where the former police chief is talking about shooter having an AR, and how the LEOs were outgunned, followed immediately by body cam footage of officers in the school hallway carrying…wait for it…ARs

Re: Another mass shooting

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 7:24 am
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 7:10 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:13 pm
KUTradition wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:57 pm

1 year ago today, and some of those coward cops still remain employed


The point isn’t to dunk on law enforcement. The point is that we have willingly walked a path to where law enforcement is goddamn TERRIFIED to enforce the goddamn laws. Too goddamn TERRIFIED to protect and serve.
there’s a scene in documentary where the former police chief is talking about shooter having an AR, and how the LEOs were outgunned, followed immediately by body cam footage of officers in the school hallway carrying…wait for it…ARs
The Randalls of the world genuinely think that at LEAST the present level of kids getting shot to death with ARs is an acceptable price to pay for freedom.