Kansas Crimson

That mishap with the J&J manufacturer seems like a problem. Houston was supposed to get 500k of those next week but is only getting 150k as a result. It's a bit concerning because if you dive into the polling on vaccine hesitancy a substantial chunk is a result of being afraid of needles. I saw one poll that asked that subgroup if they'd be more willing if they knew it was just a single shot (J&J) and a bunch were.

I just want to see basketball and football stadiums (safely) full because the last year has not been the same viewing experience. Get the fucking shot.

Also less death would be nice. Just want to add that.

I don't know why Wally hasn't already asked these deep probing questions, but at least Ted Nugent has the intellectual honesty to ask.

“I would ask you — because I’m addicted to truth, logic and common sense, and my common sense meter would demand the answer to — why weren’t we shut down for COVID-1 through -18? There was a COVID-1, and there was a COVID-2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -7, -8, -9, -10, -11, -12, -13, -14, -15, -16, -17, -18 . COVID-1 through -18 didn’t shut anything down, but whoa, COVID-19, even though it’s 99.8 percent survivable. Why didn’t we shut down for the AIDS epidemic or the flu or the Spanish Flu or the bird flu or the West Nile flu or influenza every year?”

“They claim 500,000 people have died from COVID-19,” Nugent said. “Bullshit. I believe that medical examiners in all 50 states have gone ‘I put down on the death certificate that he died of asphyxiation, but they made me put COVID.’ ‘Well, this guy was stabbed to death, but they made me put down COVID.’ ‘This guy was run over by a tandem gravel truck doing a four-wheel drift and the crows be pecking at your flesh, but they made me put down COVID-19.'”

I think if we are all being honest, we would agree there are some really interesting points brought up here and careful investigation is warranted.

You said Ted Nugent and intellectual in the same sentence.

so how do I know if it’s covid, or just cat scratch fever?

That's a question for the center of your mind.

I got this fungus in a stranglehold, baby.

Finally was able to make an appointment, happens to be for J&J... Which I found out right afterwards is only 66.3% effecacious?

Doesn't matter. Lobby says the vaccine will kill ya.

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:31 pm Finally was able to make an appointment, happens to be for J&J... Which I found out right afterwards is only 66.3% effecacious?

If it weren't for possible international travel restrictions, I'd be more than fine with 70% if that's what was readily available. You're still young and healthy.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:12 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:31 pm Finally was able to make an appointment, happens to be for J&J... Which I found out right afterwards is only 66.3% effecacious?

If it weren't for possible international travel restrictions, I'd be more than fine with 70% if that's what was readily available. You're still young and healthy.

Yeah, true, not really worried about me, I was just surprised.

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:31 pm Finally was able to make an appointment, happens to be for J&J... Which I found out right afterwards is only 66.3% effecacious?

All vaccines approved for emergency use (which is the three that are currently administered widely in the US) are 100% effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death.

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:56 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:31 pm Finally was able to make an appointment, happens to be for J&J... Which I found out right afterwards is only 66.3% effecacious?

All vaccines approved for emergency use (which is the three that are currently administered widely in the US) are 100% effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death.

Thats a pretty bold statement. One that i dont think you can prove or know. CnBs approach to the answer was the more correct and realistic answer.

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:56 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:31 pm Finally was able to make an appointment, happens to be for J&J... Which I found out right afterwards is only 66.3% effecacious?

All vaccines approved for emergency use (which is the three that are currently administered widely in the US) are 100% effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death.

Ok... When I Googled "how efficacious is the Johnson and Johnson covid vaccine, it shows a blurb from the cdc website saying:

"The J&J/Janssen vaccine was 66.3% effective in clinical trials (efficacy) at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 illness in people who had no evidence of prior infection 2 weeks after receiving the vaccine. People had the most protection 2 weeks after getting vaccinated"

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:32 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:56 pm

Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:31 pm Finally was able to make an appointment, happens to be for J&J... Which I found out right afterwards is only 66.3% effecacious?

All vaccines approved for emergency use (which is the three that are currently administered widely in the US) are 100% effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death.

Thats a pretty bold statement. One that i dont think you can prove or know. CnBs approach to the answer was the more correct and realistic answer.

It’s very knowable and provable. Rates of infection vary, but so far all vaccines are 100% effective against hospitalization and death

https://www.astho.org/COVID-19/Vaccine-Comparison/

Just saying that we dont know enough to make omnipotent statements like 100%. Nor do we need that grand statement to make it the reasonable and correct choice to get the shot. Dont be the lobster of the righteous.

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:18 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:32 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:56 pm

All vaccines approved for emergency use (which is the three that are currently administered widely in the US) are 100% effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death.

Thats a pretty bold statement. One that i dont think you can prove or know. CnBs approach to the answer was the more correct and realistic answer.

It’s very knowable and provable. Rates of infection vary, but so far all vaccines are 100% effective against hospitalization and death

https://www.astho.org/COVID-19/Vaccine-Comparison/

Keep in mind that you're talking to a Trumper

Thanks for chiming in with your lying, shit spewing, drivel.

Unlike lobs I am showing you objective data. I don’t disagree that efficacy rates are different for each vaccine differs when it comes to actually preventing infection (and there are several hypotheses why - one for instance is that the J&J vaccine trials happened when the community infection rate was much higher than when the other trials were conducted). However, in all trials no deaths or hospitalization occurred in the treatment group. There is no political or other bias involved. Everything I have stated is verifiable. If data emerged otherwise I would accept the reality and state what they reveal.

Back to my original point: it doesn’t really matter which authorized vaccine one gets, as long as one does get vaccinated.

Is it your day to play the knowitall. The other knowitalls have the day off