Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:26 pm Dak is better than mediocre though.
He’s a top 15 QB in the league.

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:26 pm Dak is better than mediocre though.
He’s a top 15 QB in the league.
( stats back this up )

Dak has shown far more than Tua or Trevor in his career and those guys just got bank.

He’s right in that just good enough to not win it all zone without an elite defense…so it’s tough.

pdub wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 6:50 amNot a bad list.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:00 pm How much better would Dak be if his coach was Andy Reid and he had a good GM instead of Jerry Jones?

I think significantly better.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:37 am Saw some interesting stats...

Last 50 starts:

Dak WL record = 33-17
Mahomes = 36-14

Dak pass TDs = 105
Mahomes = 105

Dak INT = 38
Mahomes = 39

Dak passer rating = 101.3
Mahomes = 98.9

Dak yards per attempt = 7.6
Mahomes = 7.5

Dak completion % = 68.4
Mahomes = 66.8


I'm not saying Dak is as good as Mahomes, obviously he's not. But those stats sure make it hard to justify Hurts Stroud or Herbert ahead of him. And makes it nearly impossible to put any of those other guys in the next tier we discussed ahead of him. Even Rodgers is living off his past reputation quite a bit at this point.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:31 am

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:37 am Saw some interesting stats...

Last 50 starts:

Dak WL record = 33-17
Mahomes = 36-14

Dak pass TDs = 105
Mahomes = 105

Dak INT = 38
Mahomes = 39

Dak passer rating = 101.3
Mahomes = 98.9

Dak yards per attempt = 7.6
Mahomes = 7.5

Dak completion % = 68.4
Mahomes = 66.8


I'm not saying Dak is as good as Mahomes, obviously he's not. But those stats sure make it hard to justify Hurts Stroud or Herbert ahead of him. And makes it nearly impossible to put any of those other guys in the next tier we discussed ahead of him. Even Rodgers is living off his past reputation quite a bit at this point.

I'm guessing this is regular season starts.

I'll counter with this then - for probably 70% of those games Mahomes best receivers were a busted JuJu Schuster, Mr. Drops-a-lot MVS and a rookie Rashee Rice who didn't get regular snaps until the second half of the season. His best RB was a 7th rounder who isn't adept at receiving.

Dallas's defenses over that same time period have gotten quite a bit more take aways which gives the offense favorable field position and the chance to get more TD's.

And finally, i'd argue over those 50 games, Dallas has had the better offensive line.

Your counter will be - but but Kelce.
Well, when your best WRs are the players mentioned above you can double team Kelce.

Meanwhile, Dak in that same time period has had CeeDee Lamb, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks and Michael Gallup. His RB's were Zeke and Tony Pollard - both whom are solid pass catchers.

If Hollywood can stay healthy, Worthy plays up to his draft position and Rashee is suspended for fewer than 5 games then let's compare their stats after this season.