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Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:25 pm
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:19 pm Man wouldnt it be nice if we kept TGF around. 6'7 elite athlete with scoring ability would have been an answered prayer on this roster
Maybe. Or maybe he (finally) found the level of competition that was right for his skill level.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:50 pm
by pdub
TDub wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:19 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:13 pm
TDub wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:01 pm I know we wont....but...is there a good reason not to run an extended 3 2 against these guys? they can't hurt us down low and our guys haven't been terric on pickin up switches on ball screens all year.
I would absolutely do this (or even a 1-3-1, but you probably can't get that in overnight), if for no other reason than to keep Hunter from getting pulled out. Hunter tends to be good at avoiding foul trouble, but we can't take any chances in that regard.
I mean, their tallest guy is KJs size, they all shoot 3s....why bother having Hunter run through screens all game? push everything put away from the 3 pt line and make them beat you without taking 47 open 3s
I’m not above any and all junk defenses.
Switch it up Bill but you gotta have zone ready to use if not used right outta the gate.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:53 pm
by DeletedUser
I'll be surprised if Self gets creative with a zone.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:56 pm
by pdub
If we are 4 minutes in and it’s 11-4 and they’ve hit 3 3s he’d better be open to a zone.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:57 pm
by jfish26
DeletedUser wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:53 pm I'll be surprised if Self gets creative with a zone.
pdub can speak for himself, but it's not JUST the players I worry about having a case of the fuckits for this one.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:58 pm
by DeletedUser
Have we used zone for any significant time this year? I'm not sure I remember use using it much, if at all, tbh.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:24 pm
by MICHHAWK
I highly doubt the organization is gonna say “phucque it” just because km decided to sit this one out.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:26 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:24 pm I highly doubt the organization is gonna say “phucque it” just because km decided to sit this one out.
I would not think that it's "just because km decided to sit this one out."

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:29 pm
by pdub
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:57 pm
DeletedUser wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:53 pm I'll be surprised if Self gets creative with a zone.
pdub can speak for himself, but it's not JUST the players I worry about having a case of the fuckits for this one.
If we are implying Self is over this season, well he sure shouldn't have said things about just wanting to be great when it matters...because it kinda matters a lot now.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:45 pm
by randylahey
If we have to go zone to beat Samford, we might as well say fuck it and go home

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:45 pm
by MICHHAWK
it’s apparent that HCBS has gotten a little soft as he ages. but, I’m not ready to say that he has lost his passion.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:09 pm
by DCHawk1
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:25 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:19 pm Man wouldnt it be nice if we kept TGF around. 6'7 elite athlete with scoring ability would have been an answered prayer on this roster
Maybe. Or maybe he (finally) found the level of competition that was right for his skill level.
2024 Round of 64?

Cuz...uhh...

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:15 pm
by randylahey
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:25 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:19 pm Man wouldnt it be nice if we kept TGF around. 6'7 elite athlete with scoring ability would have been an answered prayer on this roster
Maybe. Or maybe he (finally) found the level of competition that was right for his skill level.
Well obviously he wouldn't have averaged 20 here, but for a team that literally does not have a back up 4... I'd welcome TGF on this roster.

He averaged 20 on a 29-4 ncaa tournament team. Nothing to scoff at. The dude was talented

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:18 pm
by pdub
randylahey wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:45 pm If we have to go zone to beat Samford, we might as well say fuck it and go home
They are a 3 point shooting team with no scary interior scorers.
Hunter is extremely important for our offense now that KM is out so we need to protect him on defense.
I don't understand why you wouldn't do everything you could in this game to win.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:28 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:29 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:57 pm
DeletedUser wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:53 pm I'll be surprised if Self gets creative with a zone.
pdub can speak for himself, but it's not JUST the players I worry about having a case of the fuckits for this one.
If we are implying Self is over this season, well he sure shouldn't have said things about just wanting to be great when it matters...because it kinda matters a lot now.
Feels like you're moving some things around a little bit.

"Just wanting to be great when it matters" would seem to refer to a postseason-oriented approach to the program generally - goes to things like NOT sacrificing development or NOT overloading key players, in each case to win January games.

A bit apples-and-oranges, in my view, to apply it to mean that Bill should care extra-much about this game because of the particular circumstances.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:33 pm
by randylahey
pdub wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:18 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:45 pm If we have to go zone to beat Samford, we might as well say fuck it and go home
They are a 3 point shooting team with no scary interior scorers.
Hunter is extremely important for our offense now that KM is out so we need to protect him on defense.
I don't understand why you wouldn't do everything you could in this game to win.
I agree the strategy makes sense

But we don't play zone. How many minutes of zone have we played all season? Drastically changing who you are to beat a 13 seed in the first round is an alarming sign

Self teams play man to man defense. If we can't play man against Samford, our hopes in the tournament are pretty non existent (which is accurate)

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:36 pm
by DeletedUser
Gut check time for our players and coaches.

What happened to don't worry about the horses just load the wagons?

Easy to be positive when things are going well. Now they need to show some character and battle through some adversity.

Nothing to lose and everything to gain is not a bad spot to be all things considered.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:39 pm
by KUTradition
pretty good game down the stretch b/t grambling st. and montana st.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:34 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
I run a pool in my office.
60 entries as of this moment.
Champion picks are the following.......

UConn - 13
Houston - 9
Purdue - 6
UNC - 5
Tennessee - 4
Illinois - 4
Arizona - 4
Duke - 4
Kentucky - 3
Auburn - 3
Kansas - 2
Marquette - 1
Iowa State - 1
Dayton - 1

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:38 pm
by Shirley
Bill Self previews Kansas vs. Samford, provides update on Hunter Dickinson

I found this interview much more interesting than usual.