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Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:07 pm
by hasbeen
lololol I was certain Wiggins would be a better pro than Embiid lololol

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:09 pm
by Deleted User 880
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:04 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:59 pm Joel doubtful for G5. I definitely feel like there is some legacy on the line here.
Nah. They aren't getting by the nets anyway. They will win this series against washington with or without Embiid since they already have the 3-1 lead. He will be fine in a few days. He walked off the court. Even played a few possessions after the fall iirc.
I think you're assuming the Nets "big 3" will all be healthy. I hope they will be throughout the playoffs but I wouldn't bet on it. If they are not, the Bucks just might be able to give them all they can handle and the 76ers (with Joel) would be a tough series to win too.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:11 pm
by Deleted User 863
MJ23 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:09 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:04 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:59 pm Joel doubtful for G5. I definitely feel like there is some legacy on the line here.
Nah. They aren't getting by the nets anyway. They will win this series against washington with or without Embiid since they already have the 3-1 lead. He will be fine in a few days. He walked off the court. Even played a few possessions after the fall iirc.
I think you're assuming the Nets "big 3" will all be healthy. I hope they will be throughout the playoffs but I wouldn't bet on it. If they are not, the Bucks just might be able to give them all they can handle and the 76ers (with Joel) would be a tough series to win too.
I am assuming they will all be healthy because they are all currently healthy. Nets are heavy vegas favorites to win the east (and the title tbh).

I am also assuming as asteroid doesn't destroy earth before those hypothetical match ups.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:12 pm
by twocoach
MJ23 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:22 pm One could argue, well....They were inducted in to the Hall of Fame because they were being compared to those before them - who probably weren't so great - which made them look better than they were.
Also, were they inducted solely as NBA players or were their college careers a factor too? I honesty don't know.
But I agree with you in that as I said before, Kareem played against "collectively" some great Centers in the NBA.
And one could argue that the NBA being watered down by 6 new franchises during Jordan's prime, adding a bunch of players that would previously have been playing overseas, helped him win his NBA titles and look as great as he is perceived. All sorts of things could be argued if you choose to.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:13 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:04 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:59 pm Joel doubtful for G5. I definitely feel like there is some legacy on the line here.
Nah. They aren't getting by the nets anyway. They will win this series against washington with or without Embiid since they already have the 3-1 lead. He will be fine in a few days. He walked off the court. Even played a few possessions after the fall iirc.
I would not safely assume he returns for next series. That’s where legacy comes in.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:13 pm
by Deleted User 880
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:11 pm
MJ23 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:09 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:04 pm

Nah. They aren't getting by the nets anyway. They will win this series against washington with or without Embiid since they already have the 3-1 lead. He will be fine in a few days. He walked off the court. Even played a few possessions after the fall iirc.
I think you're assuming the Nets "big 3" will all be healthy. I hope they will be throughout the playoffs but I wouldn't bet on it. If they are not, the Bucks just might be able to give them all they can handle and the 76ers (with Joel) would be a tough series to win too.
I am assuming they will all be healthy because they are all currently healthy. Nets are heavy vegas favorites to win the east (and the title tbh).

I am also assuming as asteroid doesn't destroy earth before those hypothetical match ups.
Heck, at the rate we are going with fans trying to one up each other, it might be a legitimate concern that a fan might injure a player.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:07 pm lololol I was certain Wiggins would be a better pro than Embiid lololol
I was certain he'd be a better pro than Jayson Tatum too....but Embiid and Tatum are either harder workers who have improved themselves more than Wiggins, or they simply had more potential to unlock than Wiggins even though Wiggins is more athletic.

Another example that having more athletic ability does not always equal having more basketball potential. There is more to it than running fast, jumping high, and having long arms.


All that said, Wiggins still having a pretty damn good career. Just not exactly what we envisioned or hoped.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:16 pm
by Deleted User 863
MJ23 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:13 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:11 pm
MJ23 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:09 pm

I think you're assuming the Nets "big 3" will all be healthy. I hope they will be throughout the playoffs but I wouldn't bet on it. If they are not, the Bucks just might be able to give them all they can handle and the 76ers (with Joel) would be a tough series to win too.
I am assuming they will all be healthy because they are all currently healthy. Nets are heavy vegas favorites to win the east (and the title tbh).

I am also assuming as asteroid doesn't destroy earth before those hypothetical match ups.
Heck, at the rate we are going with fans trying to one up each other, it might be a legitimate concern that a fan might injure a player.
True!

It was wild watching live. They briefly showed the guy get tackled then the camera went to the top of the arena so it was hard to see what was going on.

Nice tackle by the security guard. Announcers joked that the washington football team could use him on defense.

Thankfully looked like the guy was just drunk and had no intent to hurt someone.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:18 pm
by hasbeen
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:14 pm
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:07 pm lololol I was certain Wiggins would be a better pro than Embiid lololol
I was certain he'd be a better pro than Jayson Tatum too....but Embiid and Tatum are either harder workers who have improved themselves more than Wiggins, or they simply had more potential to unlock than Wiggins even though Wiggins is more athletic.

Another example that having more athletic ability does not always equal having more basketball potential. There is more to it than running fast, jumping high, and having long arms.


All that said, Wiggins still having a pretty damn good career. Just not exactly what we envisioned or hoped.
Yeah, I'm just thinking about the SI cover of him next to Wilt -- he never really had a chance to meet expectations. I think his drive-to-be-great/aggressiveness is key, but also something as basic as ball handling and ability to create off the bounce. He's just never really had it and might explain his lack of aggression.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:20 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
As soon as we allow fans back at games, they immediately demonstrate they can’t handle it.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:21 pm
by Deleted User 863
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:18 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:14 pm
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:07 pm lololol I was certain Wiggins would be a better pro than Embiid lololol
I was certain he'd be a better pro than Jayson Tatum too....but Embiid and Tatum are either harder workers who have improved themselves more than Wiggins, or they simply had more potential to unlock than Wiggins even though Wiggins is more athletic.

Another example that having more athletic ability does not always equal having more basketball potential. There is more to it than running fast, jumping high, and having long arms.


All that said, Wiggins still having a pretty damn good career. Just not exactly what we envisioned or hoped.
Yeah, I'm just thinking about the SI cover of him next to Wilt -- he never really had a chance to meet expectations. I think his drive-to-be-great/aggressiveness is key, but also something as basic as ball handling and ability to create off the bounce. He's just never really had it and might explain his lack of aggression.
This.

I think Wiggins works pretty hard. His conditioning and durability are evidence.

But (similar to Ben McLemore) he has a loose handle and is really just not that creative off the dribble. At least not yet. He is super young still so there is time.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:08 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Don't like this one bit.

Yeah, I know Ty had this injury and surgery and didn't miss a game, but Joel is a very different human.

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Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:31 pm
by Deleted User 880
Mixed bag results. Probably better to know he's done or can/could be 100% for the rest of the playoffs.
Shit is going to linger and since I'm not a doctor I don't know if he can make it worse but my fear is he compensates and injures something else.
I know this will come off as sounding insane (consider its source - me) but I think the 6ers have a dilemma going forward. Keep an injury prone superstar (who has reoccurring back issues) or trade a superstar and "trust the process" all over again.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:35 pm
by Cascadia
Philly needs to close out tonight

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:06 pm
by twocoach
Glass Joel

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:31 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:35 pm Philly needs to close out tonight
Might be better to drag it out a bit so embiid can rest.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:35 pm
by Deleted User 880
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:31 pm
Cascadia wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:35 pm Philly needs to close out tonight
Might be better to drag it out a bit so embiid can rest.
Philly is up 3-1. Unless it's game 7 (it's not) they don't "need" to win shit tonight.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:27 pm
by Deleted User 880
Good sign. Obviously the medical staff cleared him to participate.



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Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:14 am
by pdub
The 6ers will need him v ATL.
Capela ( and double help ) v Embiid.
Trae, Boga, Hunter, Galinari--some good mix of defense and offense with that squad.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:30 pm
by randylahey