We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

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jhawks99 wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:38 am 14 year old kids serving booze, till what... 1am or later? On school nights? Randy approves.
This is sort of what I'm talking about when I point out that grift-induced, hyperspeed MAGA freakouts over quasi-fantastical horror stories results in losing sight of much more real issues that are right in front of our faces.

Because the likelihood of a mundane-but-horrible bad thing happening to a 14 year old who works at a bar is significantly higher than the likelihood of a 14 year old getting kidnapped into sex slavery.
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jfish26 wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:03 am
jhawks99 wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:38 am 14 year old kids serving booze, till what... 1am or later? On school nights? Randy approves.
This is sort of what I'm talking about when I point out that grift-induced, hyperspeed MAGA freakouts over quasi-fantastical horror stories results in losing sight of much more real issues that are right in front of our faces.

Because the likelihood of a mundane-but-horrible bad thing happening to a 14 year old who works at a bar is significantly higher than the likelihood of a 14 year old getting kidnapped into sex slavery.
Agreed. In my 51 years of living, I do not know anyone who has been kidnapped into a life of sexual slavery, or who has had a family member or even someone they know kidnapped into a life of sexual slavery.

In my 5 years of working in bars and restaurants, I knew dozens of people, both men and women, who were sexually assaulted or harassed by drunks, both men and women.

I don't know anyone who as a kid was sexually assaulted by a transvestite. I know 4 people who as a kid were sexually abused by members of their church.
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you 're on a roll today. it is barely noon est and you have already covered: illegals. sex perverts. slavery. whites are bad.

all the democrat boogeyman scare tactics. it's gonna be a big day for you.

this might be your best day ever as a propaganda machine. you might get a promotion.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:24 am you 're on a roll today. it is barely noon est and you have already covered: illegals. sex perverts. slavery. whites are bad.

all the democrat boogeyman scare tactics. it's gonna be a big day for you.

this might be your best day ever as a propaganda machine. you might get a promotion.
Eh, OK.
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come with the climate change and you can have the rest of the day off.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:18 pm come with the climate change and you can have the rest of the day off.
The good news is that you don't need to post anything else at all to qualify to take the rest of the day off.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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KUTradition wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:02 pm mich and his peeps?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... tampering/#
Who amongst us doesn't dream of having our own "voting machine"?

A former Michigan lawmaker and a losing candidate for state attorney general were charged with felonies Tuesday as part of an investigation into the improper acquisition of voting machines.
Special prosecutor D.J. Hilson since last year has been looking into efforts by a group of conservatives to persuade election clerks to give them voting machines as they attempted to prove the 2020 presidential election had been wrongly called for Joe Biden over Donald Trump. The group never turned up any proof, and courts in dozens of cases across the country ruled that the election was properly decided.

Former attorney general candidate Matthew DePerno (R) was charged with improper possession of a voting machine, conspiracy to unlawfully possess a voting machine, conspiracy to gain unauthorized access to a computer system and willfully damaging a voting machine, according to Hilson. Former state representative Daire Rendon (R) was charged with conspiracy to unlawfully possess a voting machine and using false pretenses with the intent to defraud, he said. Both were arraigned Tuesday and released...
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
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Seems like a nice guy.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:41 pm
Rudy is simply trying to save her from her self
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So. The GOP has something of a leadership problem.
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What a bunch of prudes! What's wrong with you guys, are you testosterone deficient?

Even evangelical "Christians" are obviously OK with it.

And, who doesn't enjoy a little "locker room talk" ?

"...Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
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This is all fine, but (1) these honorable Rs didn’t exactly run to the relevant authorities at the most-relevant time, and (2) in any case, if you want to back into kudos here, then finish the job and say you’re lining up with the Ds unless and until the R party puts forward a pro-democracy candidate.

Opinion | Republicans saved democracy in 2020

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... democracy/
In fact, the GOP controlled legislatures in the closest states in 2020, yet none of their leaders wavered as Trump’s team pushed the “independent state legislature” theory, which holds that the Constitution bestows on state legislatures plenary power to determine the contours of state-operated elections and to appoint presidential electors. That theory has been since rejected by the Supreme Court.

Republican-appointed judges displayed the same courage under fire. Not one Trump-appointed district judge allowed his baseless lawsuits to proceed. The Supreme Court also rejected Texas’s bid to overturn the results in four close states, holding that Texas did not have standing to sue. Trump responded angrily on Twitter, but that sound and fury signified nothing.

This refusal to throw the country into a constitutional crisis extended even to high-ranking members of Trump’s administration. Attorney General William P. Barr and virtually every other top Justice Department appointee did not bend when Trump told them to declare the election was corrupt. White House counsel Pat Cipollone was a model of probity, consistently supporting the rule of law over Trump’s whims. Their bravery contributed to the final outcome.

If you think this commendation is misplaced, imagine what would have happened if some or all of these people had been partisan rather than patriotic. State legislatures would have openly challenged the election outcome, presenting Congress with a genuine controversy. Judges or justices would have ruled in Trump’s favor despite the lack of evidence, throwing the country into chaos. The Justice Department would have put its considerable weight behind the push for a putsch, making Joe Biden’s eventual triumph much more difficult. Each person in this chain could have acted differently. Would you have been so brave under the pressure of the president of the United States?

It’s certainly true that many Republicans did seek to overturn the election results, including the many state attorneys general and members of Congress who signed on to the Texas case. But would they have done so if they thought they had a serious chance of prevailing? Those who joined the suit — and perhaps even those who brought it — likely knew they were demagogically playing to the base rather than engaging in a realistic effort to undermine the election.

The same verdict applies to Republican House members and senators who voted not to certify Arizona’s and Pennsylvania’s electoral votes. They knew the vote would fail, and thus they could throw red meat to the base without risk that they would succeed. If they are to be castigated, then we must also castigate the 32 Democratic members of Congress who voted in 2005 not to certify Ohio’s 2004 electoral college votes, a move that would have prevented President George W. Bush’s reelection had it succeeded.
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Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Yesterday my buddy said his kid (who lives in Illinois) is a "red-stater". Said his son wants to go to college in Texas or North Carolina. I then asked what schools. He told me UT and I laughed.
The kid is a lot smarter than I am. Scored perfect on his ACT.
I'm supposed to see him today. Why do I have a feeling my dumb ass may be able to "own" him when I ask him if he's a "red-stater" why does he want to go to UT Austin?
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Overlander wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:59 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:41 pm
Rudy is simply trying to save her from her self
The full transcript is even more horrifying. https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani- ... ns-1817120

MR. GIULIANI: Let the doorman wait outside to bring in the luggage. Wait, wait. We need a little time alone. Yeah, I need a little time alone with my girlfriend here.

MS. DUNPHY: That's right.

MR. GIULIANI: With my daughter.

MS. DUNPHY: That's right.

How'd you like to be his ACTUAL DAUGHTER and read that?
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“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
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“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
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