Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 11:01 am**

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 10:18 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 8:23 amSo: money in politics is good, but the way you get there (corporate free speech) is bad. And also, the first amendment means some people can say what they want on any medium, but others can't.

Of course, I've now spent five minutes more on analyzing and unpacking these issues than Trump has in digesting the Constitution. So joke's on me I guess.
I'm not by any means calling Trump a constitutional scholar, but I do believe he knows what he was doing with that tweet and does not necessarily believe Twitter is infringing on his 1A rights.

I disagree on this. Every guess at five-dimensional chess has turned out to be wrong.

I would guess that, perhaps until this morning, he genuinely believed the First Amendment gives him the right to free speech on Twitter. The same way he genuinely believes Article II gives him the power to do anything he wants.

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 11:06 am**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 11:01 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 10:18 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 8:23 amSo: money in politics is good, but the way you get there (corporate free speech) is bad. And also, the first amendment means some people can say what they want on any medium, but others can't.

Of course, I've now spent five minutes more on analyzing and unpacking these issues than Trump has in digesting the Constitution. So joke's on me I guess.
I'm not by any means calling Trump a constitutional scholar, but I do believe he knows what he was doing with that tweet and does not necessarily believe Twitter is infringing on his 1A rights.
I disagree on this. Every guess at five-dimensional chess has turned out to be wrong.

I would guess that, perhaps until this morning, he genuinely believed the First Amendment gives him the right to free speech on Twitter. The same way he genuinely believes Article II gives him the power to do anything he wants.

Well, I do suppose he has people on his legal team that are too scared to give it to him straight. Either way, the result has the same effect on his base.

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 11:11 am**

Well here's some good, shitty news:

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 11:55 am**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 11:11 am Well here's some good, shitty news:

Except, nobody believes anything that comes out of Yale, right?

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 12:06 pm**

Yep, proves that Yale research has turned to crap.

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 12:46 pm**

And perhaps conclusively.

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 pm**

Encouraging. Congratulations to us.

May 27, 2020 Association of Stay-at-Home Orders With COVID-19 Hospitalizations in 4 States

In analyses of the effectiveness of response measures to the outbreak of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), most studies have used the number of confirmed cases or deaths. However, case count is a conservative estimate of the actual number of infected individuals in the absence of community-wide serologic testing. Death count is a lagging metric and insufficient for proactive hospital capacity planning. A more valuable metric for assessing the effects of public health interventions on the health care infrastructure is hospitalizations.1 As of April 18, 2020, governors in 42 states had issued statewide executive “stay-at-home” orders to help mitigate the risk that COVID-19 hospitalizations would overwhelm their state’s health care infrastructure. This study assessed the association between these orders and hospitalization trends.

...Results
In all 4 states, cumulative hospitalizations up to and including the median effective date of a stay-at-home order closely fit and favored an exponential function over a linear fit (R2 = 0.973 vs 0.695 in Colorado; 0.965 vs 0.865 in Minnesota; 0.98 vs 0.803 in Ohio; 0.994 vs 0.775 in Virginia) (Table). However, after the median effective date, observed hospitalization growth rates deviated from projected exponential growth rates with slower growth in all 4 states. Observed hospitalizations consistently fell outside of the 95% prediction bands of the projected exponential growth curve (Figure).

For example, Minnesota’s residents were mandated to stay at home starting March 28. On April 13, 5 days after the median effective date, the cumulative projected hospitalizations were 988 and the actual hospitalizations were 361. In Virginia, projected hospitalizations 5 days after the median effective date were 2335 and actual hospitalizations were 1048.

Discussion
In 4 states with stay-at-home orders, cumulative hospitalizations for COVID-19 deviated from projected best-fit exponential growth rates after these orders became effective. The deviation started 2 to 4 days sooner than the median effective date of each state’s order and may reflect the use of a median incubation period for symptom onset and time to hospitalization to establish this date. Other factors that potentially decreased the rate of virus spread and subsequent hospitalizations include school closures, social distancing guidelines, and general pandemic awareness. In addition, economic insecurity and loss of health insurance during the pandemic may have also decreased hospital utilization. Limitations of the study include that these other factors could not be modeled in the analysis and that data on only 4 states were available.

Blue lines indicate observed cumulative hospitalizations (including those currently hospitalized and those discharged) up to each day; select values are displayed for clarity. Dashed red lines begin on the first day of available reporting by each state and are the best-fit exponential curves for cumulative hospitalizations for the fitting period: first day of reporting up to and including the median effective date (panel A: y = 3.5829 exp(0.23599t), R2 = 0.9734; B: y = 7.521 exp(0.1876t), R2 = 0.96445; C: y = 18.8482 exp(0.2268t), R2 = 0.9798; D: y = 15.932 exp(0.1397t), R2 = 0.99444). Shaded regions indicate the 95% prediction bands of the exponential growth curves. Because the median incubation period of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) was reported to be 4 to 5.1 days3,4 and the median time from first symptom to hospitalization was found to be 7 days,5 it was hypothesized that any association between stay-at-home orders and hospitalization rates would become evident after 12 days (median effective date).

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 10:53 pm**

Another 1500 dead today

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 11:05 pm**

Geezer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:33 pm In a world of 7 billion people this is still pretty insignificant.

Posted: **Wed May 27, 2020 11:25 pm**

This has probably been posted here before, but this Frontline from 2006 about AIDS is informative:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/aids/

The concept of butchering chimpanzees for food as the crosswalk to human transmission. One random monkey in Africa infecting one human, by chance, could cause so much destruction and pain over decades is truly fascinating.

Posted: **Thu May 28, 2020 7:54 am**

sadly, primates are still on the bush-meat menu in some parts of africa

Posted: **Thu May 28, 2020 10:31 am**

https://www.sinobiological.com/research ... id=3342873

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:09 am**

White House and CDC remove coronavirus warnings about choirs in faith guidance

The Trump administration with no advance notice removed warnings contained in guidance for the reopening of houses of worship that singing in choirs can spread the coronavirus.

Earlier this month, the CDC issued a report warning about “superspreader” events where the coronavirus might be “highly transmissible in certain settings, including group singing events.” That report described a choir practice in Washington state in March at which one person ended up infecting 52 other people, including two who died.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/w ... story.html

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:14 am**

seahawk wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 9:09 am White House and CDC remove coronavirus warnings about choirs in faith guidance

The Trump administration with no advance notice removed warnings contained in guidance for the reopening of houses of worship that singing in choirs can spread the coronavirus.

Earlier this month, the CDC issued a report warning about “superspreader” events where the coronavirus might be “highly transmissible in certain settings, including group singing events.” That report described a choir practice in Washington state in March at which one person ended up infecting 52 other people, including two who died.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/w ... story.html

Ah. Some bad-faith guidance.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:33 am**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 9:14 am
seahawk wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 9:09 am White House and CDC remove coronavirus warnings about choirs in faith guidance

The Trump administration with no advance notice removed warnings contained in guidance for the reopening of houses of worship that singing in choirs can spread the coronavirus.

Earlier this month, the CDC issued a report warning about “superspreader” events where the coronavirus might be “highly transmissible in certain settings, including group singing events.” That report described a choir practice in Washington state in March at which one person ended up infecting 52 other people, including two who died.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/w ... story.html
Ah. Some bad-faith guidance.

Fauci should threaten to resign.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 9:59 am**

highest single-day number of covid-positive tests here in Utah yesterday

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:54 am**

sCieNcE!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/healthy-p ... -who-says/

The World Health Organization is recommending healthy people, including those who don’t exhibit COVID-19 symptoms, only wear masks when taking care of someone infected with the contagion, a sharp contrast from the advice given by American public health officials who recommend everyone wear a mask in public.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:47 am**

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:54 am sCieNcE!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/healthy-p ... -who-says/

The World Health Organization is recommending healthy people, including those who don’t exhibit COVID-19 symptoms, only wear masks when taking care of someone infected with the contagion, a sharp contrast from the advice given by American public health officials who recommend everyone wear a mask in public.

“No masks - the virus is so small that it will penetrate cloth anyway. No, wait, now it is advisable to wear a mask. Er, what we meant to say is that if you don’t wear a mask in public you are a sociopath, dammit! What? Nobody said that! Just wear on if you are caring for COVID patients, silly!”

Little wonder that most people don’t trust the globalist “experts”.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:47 am**

ya know what’s great about science?

it is, by definition, iterative

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:48 am**

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 11:47 am
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:54 am sCieNcE!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/healthy-p ... -who-says/

The World Health Organization is recommending healthy people, including those who don’t exhibit COVID-19 symptoms, only wear masks when taking care of someone infected with the contagion, a sharp contrast from the advice given by American public health officials who recommend everyone wear a mask in public.
“No masks - the virus is so small that it will penetrate cloth anyway. No, wait, now it is advisable to wear a mask. Er, what we meant to say is that if you don’t wear a mask in public you are a sociopath, dammit! What? Nobody said that! Just wear on if you are caring for COVID patients, silly!”

Little wonder that most people don’t trust the globalist “experts”.

i’m sorry you don’t understand

sucks to be you

Kansas Crimson

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