Kansas Crimson

Vaxed.
All of a sudden I have a strong interest in purchasing the Microsoft Surface.

J&J vax suspended in US and Europe.

TBH, that’s the last vax I wanted as it doesn’t appear as effective as Pfizer or Moderna.

May 2 I’ll be getting Pfizer #2...

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:03 am Mjl taking issue with a minority woman, what a shock. Had a similar take on Kamala Harris being the VP.

Link?

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:07 am J&J vax suspended in US and Europe.

TBH, that’s the last vax I wanted as it doesn’t appear as effective as Pfizer or Moderna.

May 2 I’ll be getting Pfizer #2...

"But comparing the efficacy of those vaccines to the efficacy of Johnson & Johnson’s is challenging because of differences in the designs of the Phase 3 clinical tests — essentially the trials were testing for different outcomes. Pfizer’s and Moderna’s trials both tested for any symptomatic Covid infection. Pfizer started counting cases from seven days after receipt of the second dose of vaccine, while Moderna waited until day 14 to start counting cases.

J&J, by contrast, sought to determine whether one dose of its vaccine protected against moderate to severe Covid illness — defined as a combination of a positive test and at least one symptom such as shortness of breath, beginning from 14 or 28 days after the single shot. (The company collected data for both.)

Because of the difference in the trials, making direct comparisons is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. Additionally, Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccines were tested before the emergence of troubling new variants in Britain, South Africa, and Brazil. It’s not entirely clear how well they will work against these mutated viruses.

The J&J vaccine was still being tested when the variants were making the rounds. Much of the data generated in the South African arm of the J&J trial involved people who were infected with the variant first seen in South Africa, called B.1.351."

https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/02/com ... n-johnson/

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:23 am

So dumb. What can you do in a couple days?

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:19 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:03 am Mjl taking issue with a minority woman, what a shock. Had a similar take on Kamala Harris being the VP.

Link?

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:32 pm Blech. She had one "good" primary debate, and that was when she was attacking Biden, accusing him of being a racist. For one, that's going to be replayed a lot over the next 80 days. B, she took that momentum and completely squandered it.

I understand the pick in terms of the current zeitgiest, but I don't like it.

They won't be changing that J&J vaccine - so is the pause just to say, "well, this can cause very rare bloodclots in women for sure," and then keep administering?

Give it a rest Cascadia.
You're becoming a characterization of yourself.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:27 am They won't be changing that J&J vaccine - so is the pause just to say, "well, this can cause very rare bloodclots in women for sure," and then keep administering?

Well if it only rarely affects women, that does nothing against the bigger end game here, which is more doses for Mich.

Men folks.

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:24 am

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:23 am

So dumb. What can you do in a couple days?

A YouTube video.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:27 am Give it a rest Cascadia.
You're becoming a characterization of yourself.

He asked for the link bud. And he has a history of minimizing the accomplishments of minority women. Take it up with him.

OK chief.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:18 am

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:27 am Give it a rest Cascadia.
You're becoming a characterization of yourself.

He asked for the link bud. And he has a history of minimizing the accomplishments of minority women. Take it up with him.

How is Walensky a minority?

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:59 amJ&J vaccine on hold now

If I saw correctly, the six cases were all younger women.

This is big generalization, but there is a common medication that many young women take that has shown to have coagulant side effects.

Cocaine?

I heard she don't lie.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:02 am

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:59 amJ&J vaccine on hold now

If I saw correctly, the six cases were all younger women.

This is big generalization, but there is a common medication that many young women take that has shown to have coagulant side effects.

Just because CnB is being slightly coy, and this is a world I found myself thrust in, he's talking hormonal birth control. Which in of itself, gives you 3x to 6x higher chance of a blood clot, even moreso when you start adding other risk factors (surgery, smoking, weight gain, increase sedation). In this COVID world, where many are gaining weight and adding more time on the couch, it makes a lot of sense that this could be birth control related.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:06 am I heard she don't lie.

She dont lie