Kansas Crimson

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:58 pm Pence shouldn't be the standard....

"not that guy" isn't a good platform, wayyyy to much of that going on. Need to have more pride in what you ARE doing and less reliance on how shitty the other guy is/was.

Pence may not have dont much, and what he did do may not have been grand, but at least he existed. Again, not arguing for that dude, but.....sheesh, this world is....somethin...

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:05 pm I mean George Sr. was visible, Al Gore was visible, Cheney wasn't good but highly visible.

I believe it's possible, but is there a pragmatic reason why Biden doesn't have Obama be his VP? then when he is 25thed Obama becomes president again for a 3rd time?

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:26 pm Harris does a lot of the thankless hard work. Respect the heck out her.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:10 pm I’m not saying I agree, but I’m sure the strategy is to keep her as something of a blank slate.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:05 pm I mean George Sr. was visible, Al Gore was visible, Cheney wasn't good but highly visible.

I believe it's possible, but is there a pragmatic reason why Biden doesn't have Obama be his VP? then when he is 25thed Obama becomes president again for a 3rd time?

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:49 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:05 pm I mean George Sr. was visible, Al Gore was visible, Cheney wasn't good but highly visible.

I believe it's possible, but is there a pragmatic reason why Biden doesn't have Obama be his VP? then when he is 25thed Obama becomes president again for a 3rd time?

Tdub, you must think Obama is a republican?

Not so much anymore, apparently, but there's this document we've used for nearly two and a half centuries, that was good enough reason why and why not, to do things:

22nd Amendment

Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:11 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:49 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:05 pm I mean George Sr. was visible, Al Gore was visible, Cheney wasn't good but highly visible.

I believe it's possible, but is there a pragmatic reason why Biden doesn't have Obama be his VP? then when he is 25thed Obama becomes president again for a 3rd time?

Tdub, you must think Obama is a republican?

Not so much anymore, apparently, but there's this document we've used for nearly two and a half centuries, that was good enough reason why and why not, to do things:

22nd Amendment

Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

"elected"

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:49 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:05 pm I mean George Sr. was visible, Al Gore was visible, Cheney wasn't good but highly visible.

I believe it's possible, but is there a pragmatic reason why Biden doesn't have Obama be his VP? then when he is 25thed Obama becomes president again for a 3rd time?

Tdub, you must think Obama is a republican?

Not so much anymore, apparently, but there's this document we've used for nearly two and a half centuries, that was good enough reason why and why not, to do things:

22nd Amendment

Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:11 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:49 am

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:05 pm I mean George Sr. was visible, Al Gore was visible, Cheney wasn't good but highly visible.

I believe it's possible, but is there a pragmatic reason why Biden doesn't have Obama be his VP? then when he is 25thed Obama becomes president again for a 3rd time?

Tdub, you must think Obama is a republican?

Not so much anymore, apparently, but there's this document we've used for nearly two and a half centuries, that was good enough reason why and why not, to do things:

22nd Amendment

Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

"elected"

Shirley wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:09 pm

dolomite wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:27 pm If Joe Biden is elected and somehow doesn’t serve his full term, no need for concern as we have his VP (the border czar) to lead the U.S.A.

What's your problem with the VP? Be specific.

dolomite wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:17 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:09 pm

dolomite wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:27 pm If Joe Biden is elected and somehow doesn’t serve his full term, no need for concern as we have his VP (the border czar) to lead the U.S.A.

What's your problem with the VP? Be specific.

My issue with the VP is that she has the moniker “Border Czar” and won’t or can’t do much of anything to improve the border situation.
VP’s normally are just figure heads used for attending funerals, parades etc…

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:06 am

dolomite wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:17 am

Shirley wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:09 pm

What's your problem with the VP? Be specific.

My issue with the VP is that she has the moniker “Border Czar” and won’t or can’t do much of anything to improve the border situation.
VP’s normally are just figure heads used for attending funerals, parades etc…

Pubs need to make up their minds - either the President can act alone (border security) or can’t (student loans). Perhaps the best play for Dark Brandon is to tie the two and issue one Executive Order!

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:03 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:06 am

dolomite wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:17 am

My issue with the VP is that she has the moniker “Border Czar” and won’t or can’t do much of anything to improve the border situation.
VP’s normally are just figure heads used for attending funerals, parades etc…

Pubs need to make up their minds - either the President can act alone (border security) or can’t (student loans). Perhaps the best play for Dark Brandon is to tie the two and issue one Executive Order!

the last thing we need is more executive orders.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:17 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:03 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:06 am

Pubs need to make up their minds - either the President can act alone (border security) or can’t (student loans). Perhaps the best play for Dark Brandon is to tie the two and issue one Executive Order!

the last thing we need is more executive orders.

I tend to agree with this. I would agree with it in even more cases if Congress hadn’t set up its own rules in such a way as to not just enable but encourage bad-faith inaction.

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:53 pm There wouldn’t be anyone at all to pick the lettuce. And the strawberries, cauliflower, cabbage, tomatoes and corn.