Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:45 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:59 pm Welp.

In this week’s episode of, “Sorry you guys I know you hate me for doing this but SERIOUSLY HOW AM I THE ONLY ONE CONCERNED ABOUT US GIVING WEAPONS TO RIGHT-WING NATIONALISTS WHO END UP ON TRIAL AT THE HAGUE FOR GENOCIDE?!?!”

The top court of the United Nations ruled on Friday that it would take up the question of whether Ukraine committed genocide in its Donetsk and Luhansk regions, an accusation at the heart of Russia’s argument for its 2022 full-scale invasion.

The ruling came in a case brought by Ukraine to the International Court of Justice. The court said that Ukraine’s claim that there was no credible evidence that Kyiv was “responsible for committing genocide” in its Donetsk and Luhansk regions was admissible and that it would examine that claim on its merits.

The case, which will likely take many months to complete, will give a legal answer to one of the central allegations made by Russia against Ukraine — that Kyiv has been committing genocide against Russian speakers in the country’s east.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/worl ... ussia.html

No one hates you.

But this is a great example of what you are doing, over and over, that people hate.

It is clear from just the portion of the article you quoted that what is happening here is that Ukraine ASKED the UN court to consider whether Putin’s justification for his war on Ukraine has any basis in fact.

You will be familiar with Putin’s pretext here, because it is right there in his war-opening speech that you have cribbed from. But here is some additional information in the article you posted:

In his February 2022 speech that announced the invasion of Ukraine, President Vladimir V. Putin said that the purpose of the “special military operation,” as Russia has called the war, was to “protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime.”

Ukraine denounced Russia’s genocide allegations at the time, calling them “manipulative.” Shortly after the invasion Ukraine’s foreign affairs ministry said they served as an excuse for Russia’s “unlawful aggression.”

Two days after the Russian attack, Ukraine brought its case to the court, which is based in The Hague, in the Netherlands, arguing that the genocide allegation was false and therefore Russia’s use of force against it was a violation of the Genocide Convention.

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[Should] the court rule in Ukraine’s favor, that would dismiss Russia’s claim that Kyiv had committed genocide against Russian speakers in the country’s east, which has been at the heart of Moscow’s argument for invasion and overall hostility toward the Ukrainian government.

In other words, you are SO freaking eager to adopt Putin’s talking points that you see (and bring us!), as evidence of Ukraine’s apparent arson, a proceeding brought by Ukraine to establish that Russia manufactured smoke.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:44 pm That's not what has happened to you or why it has happened to you.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:41 pm no, the U.S. is indeed not a monolithic entity when it comes to feelings about war and military assistance.

The thing is, if anyone even attempts to express feelings about war and military assistance that deviate from the monolithic entity that is the prescribed narratives…well, just look how this thread has treated Qusdahl.

Karolina Shiino, a Ukraine-born model with Japanese citizenship, has relinquished her title as the 2024 Miss Japan Grand Prix winner after a magazine report revealed her affair with a married influencer.

Exposed: On Wednesday, Shukan Bunshun reported that Shiino, 26, was in a relationship with a married doctor. However, the Miss Japan organizer rejected the claim on Thursday, asserting that the doctor had represented himself as single, and Shiino was unaware of his marital status. But on Monday, the association admitted that Shiino had known about the doctor's marriage and apologized for initially denying it.

Stepping down from the crown: Consequently, Shiino offered to step down as Miss Japan. Despite contest organizers initially supporting her, she decided to give up her title following the revelation. She apologized for causing trouble and betraying her supporters.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:20 am U.S. war plans for Ukraine don’t foresee retaking lost territory


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... n-defense/

- 10-year plan (but I thought it was no matter how long)

- “access to the financial sector”

- “future-proofing Ukraine against Trump”

- ‘“There is still going to be swapping of territory” in small cities and villages with minimal strategic value’ so much for not one inch

- “U.S. policymakers say they expect the war will eventually end through negotiations”

- but also that they don’t think Putin will be serious about talks this (so much for those “Putin hints at being open to ceasefire” headlines western media published a few weeks ago, but were more Putin propaganda cuz it would have involved conceding the Russian-occupied areas that didn’t even wanna be part of Ukraine but now the west is apparently conceding anyway)

“You cannot win a war by pursuing an incremental step-by-step approach,” As we continue to pursue an incremental step-by-step approach


Like, seriously…wut

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:00 pm
Cuz it almost sounds like you’re, once again, knee-jerk dismissing anything and everything that doesn’t fit in with your narrow world views as Russian propaganda.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:00 pm For real, fish. Where do you draw this line?

The New York Times reports that the UN court will rule on whether Ukraine committed genocide.

So is the NYT a Putin parrot too?

Is the UN too?

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:30 pm When Illy calls you our for Illy-ing...

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:58 pm I did read the NYT article.

I asked you about the context of the investigation. Do you think the UN investigating Ukraine for genocide is Russian propaganda?